Depression after Washing

"GMOD10X" wrote in message
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Vaughn Simon wrote:
"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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Renting is far more depressing,.

Yes, but the depression only lasts for a short while. When I leave
the airplane, and all the problems and expenses of ownership, sitting on
the ramp, I always leave with a happy smile on my face. Renting rocks!

Vaughn




In this day and age of high cost's and excessive liability renting is
becoming more economical and practical than owning


Considering the average persons circumstances, and an honest accounting for
both a persons time and money, renting is the only way to go. Not to
mention, you can select 2 place, 4 place, high and fast, low and slow,
aerobatic, etc - every time you pick up the phone.

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:42:04 -0400, GMOD10X wrote
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Vaughn Simon wrote:
"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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Renting is far more depressing,.

Yes, but the depression only lasts for a short while. When I leave the
airplane, and all the problems and expenses of ownership, sitting on the ramp, I
always leave with a happy smile on my face. Renting rocks!

Vaughn




In this day and age of high cost's and excessive liability
renting is becoming more economical and practical than owning


Not so. Sharing a plane among three or four pilot/owners makes it
affordable and fun.

Larry Dighera writes:

Not so. Sharing a plane among three or four pilot/owners makes it
affordable and fun.

That requires a great deal of trust in the other pilots/owners.

GMOD10X wrote:

In this day and age of high cost's and excessive liability
renting is becoming more economical and practical than owning

Depends on the type of flying you do. For just boring holes in the sky and
$100 hamburgers, you're correct. On the other hand, if you actually use a
plane for going places, renting is not very practical.

Maintenance is probably the biggest cost issue for me. I could reduce
that by doing more of my own work (I know several IAs that would sign off my
work), but I just don't have the time. When I'm not working, I'd rather
spend my limited free time flying.

Not sure what "excessive liability" means. My airplane insurance has
always cost less than my car insurance (for triple the coverage).

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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"Charles Talleyrand" wrote in message
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My kid and I just washed the plane. Even after washing it, there are
still chips of paint missing, a bit of rust, a drip-stain of fuel, and
so on. The panel looks like it has been modified every once in a
while since 1966. My plane is relatively nice compared to the other
ones on the field, but it's still in worse cosmetic condition than my
car.

None of these problems is a safety issue, and none of them could be
fixed without spending significant time and/or money.

One of the reasons we own airplanes is pride of ownership.

This makes me sad. Makes me want to sell and rent.

It's possible to restore old paint. You'd be surprised what you can polish
out. Older planes were actually painted with very high quality paint that
can be restored. Chips can be polished and filled with paint. There's not
much you can do with rust spots other than remove it and have the paint
matched, but it should at least be tended to before it gets worse. You can
either have all that done professionally or you can do it yourself. The
following web site would be a great place to start:

http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/

On Jun 26, 10:45 pm, "Mike" wrote:
"Charles Talleyrand" wrote in message

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My kid and I just washed the plane. Even after washing it, there are
still chips of paint missing, a bit of rust, a drip-stain of fuel, and
so on. The panel looks like it has been modified every once in a
while since 1966. My plane is relatively nice compared to the other
ones on the field, but it's still in worse cosmetic condition than my
car.

None of these problems is a safety issue, and none of them could be
fixed without spending significant time and/or money.

One of the reasons we own airplanes is pride of ownership.

This makes me sad. Makes me want to sell and rent.

It's possible to restore old paint. You'd be surprised what you can polish
out. Older planes were actually painted with very high quality paint that
can be restored. Chips can be polished and filled with paint. There's not
much you can do with rust spots other than remove it and have the paint
matched, but it should at least be tended to before it gets worse. You can
either have all that done professionally or you can do it yourself. The
following web site would be a great place to start:


It's not old paint. The paint is probably only six years old. My car
is also six years old, but I know I can replace my car when ever I get
sick of it. Planes are not so easy to exchange, and I would just get
another old plane anyway. At least this one has very few non-cosmetic
squawks (dang nose wheel shimmy).

I could rent and save money and still fly the same amount, but then I
would not have pride of ownership. I have a $20,000 Cessna 150. It
flies just fine but the cosmetics just don't touch a $20,000 car.
This reduces the pride of ownership and makes me more likely to sell
and rent. Of course renting is a pain in the butt here (there is one
plane; everyone must share it).

-still sad

Charles Talleyrand wrote:


It's not old paint. The paint is probably only six years old. My car
is also six years old, but I know I can replace my car when ever I get
sick of it. Planes are not so easy to exchange, and I would just get
another old plane anyway. At least this one has very few non-cosmetic
squawks (dang nose wheel shimmy).

I could rent and save money and still fly the same amount, but then I
would not have pride of ownership. I have a $20,000 Cessna 150. It
flies just fine but the cosmetics just don't touch a $20,000 car.
This reduces the pride of ownership and makes me more likely to sell
and rent. Of course renting is a pain in the butt here (there is one
plane; everyone must share it).

-still sad

There's always the option to repaint.

"Charles Talleyrand" wrote in message
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On Jun 26, 10:45 pm, "Mike" wrote:
"Charles Talleyrand" wrote in message

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My kid and I just washed the plane. Even after washing it, there are
still chips of paint missing, a bit of rust, a drip-stain of fuel, and
so on. The panel looks like it has been modified every once in a
while since 1966. My plane is relatively nice compared to the other
ones on the field, but it's still in worse cosmetic condition than my
car.

None of these problems is a safety issue, and none of them could be
fixed without spending significant time and/or money.

One of the reasons we own airplanes is pride of ownership.

This makes me sad. Makes me want to sell and rent.

It's possible to restore old paint. You'd be surprised what you can
polish
out. Older planes were actually painted with very high quality paint
that
can be restored. Chips can be polished and filled with paint. There's
not
much you can do with rust spots other than remove it and have the paint
matched, but it should at least be tended to before it gets worse. You
can
either have all that done professionally or you can do it yourself. The
following web site would be a great place to start:


It's not old paint. The paint is probably only six years old. My car
is also six years old, but I know I can replace my car when ever I get
sick of it. Planes are not so easy to exchange, and I would just get
another old plane anyway. At least this one has very few non-cosmetic
squawks (dang nose wheel shimmy).

If the paint is only 6 years old, it probably used a clear coat system. It
can still be restored as it probably isn't old enough to have lost the clear
coat finish. Oxidation is fairly easy to deal with, it just takes a bit of
work. A good quality mechanical polisher and the no-how to use it can make
a tremendous difference.

My understanding is that most commercially available airplane paints are
single stage (Imron and Jetglow), and are usually not clear coated.

"Viperdoc" wrote in message
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My understanding is that most commercially available airplane paints are
single stage (Imron and Jetglow), and are usually not clear coated.

Since he had a 150 and the paint was 6 years old, I'm assuming it's
aftermarket and they used a cheaper clearcoat system especially since it's
already started to fail after 6 years, but this may be a bad assumption.