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Short Stirling pics 2 [1/8] - ME846Crew_1661HCU_heeley.jpg (1/1)
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Short Stirling... - b-17 entry.jpg
In article , Stormin' Norman says...
On 4 Jul 2018 05:56:18 -0700, Miloch wrote: From your post: "There were several incidents in which heavily damaged aircraft, such as one Stirling which suffered a head-on collision with a Messerschmitt Bf 109 fighter over Hamburg, were able to continue flying and safely return to base." An impressive aircraft. FWIW, the only entry way in that I see is the door in front of the tail...then I guess it's a crawl or hunched walk up to the cockpit...and since it's a tail dragger, the cockpit seats must be at least 17 or 18 feet up...considerably higher than a B-17. * |
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Short Stirling... - b-17 entry.jpg
In article , Stormin' Norman says...
On 4 Jul 2018 17:42:46 -0700, Miloch wrote: In article , Stormin' Norman says... On 4 Jul 2018 05:56:18 -0700, Miloch wrote: From your post: "There were several incidents in which heavily damaged aircraft, such as one Stirling which suffered a head-on collision with a Messerschmitt Bf 109 fighter over Hamburg, were able to continue flying and safely return to base." An impressive aircraft. FWIW, the only entry way in that I see is the door in front of the tail...then I guess it's a crawl or hunched walk up to the cockpit...and since it's a tail dragger, the cockpit seats must be at least 17 or 18 feet up...considerably higher than a B-17. I believe you are correct about the entry door, although there were several escape hatches for the pilots and crew. I wonder what the engineering rationalization was for making these aircraft so high at the nose? With few exceptions, I've found British aircraft design to be ruthlessly functional with less attention paid to grace or beauty...at least to my eye. Both the B-17 and Stirling were initially designed in the 30s but the Boeing design seems to show more attention to streamlining. Of course, Britain was more on a war footing than America with fewer resources and less time available. ....just my two cents worth. * I happened across a video which shows the crew entering and walking around in the fuselage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC-vhYHbhgE |
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Short Stirling... - b-17 entry.jpg
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Miloch wrote: In article , Stormin' Norman says... On 4 Jul 2018 17:42:46 -0700, Miloch wrote: In article , Stormin' Norman says... On 4 Jul 2018 05:56:18 -0700, Miloch wrote: From your post: "There were several incidents in which heavily damaged aircraft, such as one Stirling which suffered a head-on collision with a Messerschmitt Bf 109 fighter over Hamburg, were able to continue flying and safely return to base." An impressive aircraft. FWIW, the only entry way in that I see is the door in front of the tail...then I guess it's a crawl or hunched walk up to the cockpit...and since it's a tail dragger, the cockpit seats must be at least 17 or 18 feet up...considerably higher than a B-17. I believe you are correct about the entry door, although there were several escape hatches for the pilots and crew. I wonder what the engineering rationalization was for making these aircraft so high at the nose? With few exceptions, I've found British aircraft design to be ruthlessly functional with less attention paid to grace or beauty...at least to my eye. Both the B-17 and Stirling were initially designed in the 30s but the Boeing design seems to show more attention to streamlining. Of course, Britain was more on a war footing than America with fewer resources and less time available. ...just my two cents worth. * I happened across a video which shows the crew entering and walking around in the fuselage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC-vhYHbhgE The Short Stirling was the worst of the RAF four engined bomber for a very simple reason it was the only one built strictly to the specification of a wingspan limited to 100 feet so that it could be stowed in a hangar. The Lancaster (the four engined derivative of the twin engined Manchester) was able to carry large bombs while the bomb bay of the Halifax was optimised for the small bombs used in the thirties. |
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