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Future in Aviation for my Son?
As many of you know, my son is taking flight lessons. He's past solo,
and into his cross-country flights. He's a senior in high school, and is wondering what to do with the rest of his life. His initial aim has been going into engineering, but has decided that math is not something he truly enjoys. (Although he's good at it -- far, far more advanced than I am.) He's now toying with the idea of a career in aviation. Possibilities include: - Commercial pilot - Helicopter pilot - Something on the business side of aviation. I need some first-hand experiences, please. Hours worked, what to expect at the entry level, how much college does your job require, types of skills required, etc. What kinds of careers are out there right now? What sort of college degree should a 17 year old pursue in order to come out the other end with a successful job in aviation? We're filling out applications for colleges, and his choice of colleges will be steered by his decisions. Your input is very much appreciated! -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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On Oct 10, 6:24 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:
As many of you know, my son is taking flight lessons. He's past solo, and into his cross-country flights. He's a senior in high school, and is wondering what to do with the rest of his life. His initial aim has been going into engineering, but has decided that math is not something he truly enjoys. (Although he's good at it -- far, far more advanced than I am.) Become an Engineer and then buy his own plane. |
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Future in Aviation for my Son?
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 10, 6:24 pm, Jay Honeck wrote: As many of you know, my son is taking flight lessons. He's past solo, and into his cross-country flights. He's a senior in high school, and is wondering what to do with the rest of his life. His initial aim has been going into engineering, but has decided that math is not something he truly enjoys. (Although he's good at it -- far, far more advanced than I am.) Become an Engineer and then buy his own plane. Ha, ha. Very funny. Become an engineer and watch your job be out-sourced by some doofus with an MBA who doesn't know which end is up, but can run a spreadsheet. |
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Future in Aviation for my Son?
His "timing" may just be right.. 4yr college degree at an aviation college,
get it in management of some type, or engineering may be better and get the ratings... the "bottom of the food chain" is being sucked dry around here. Used to be the local "ditch runners" flying turbo props for tourists to the Grand Canyon required 1500hrs total time and 500 multi now they are taking 500hr pilots with a Commercial Multi Instrument to "ride right seat", entry level wages at $15-16K. Move up to Captain in a couple of years at double the wage. The entry level positions are open, because those Captains with experience are being sucked into the regional's as everyone moves up the food chain with the SBBP (Senior Baby Boomer Pilots) facing mandatory retirement at age. Did I see a report last week that the first of the Baby Boomers are now Medicare and Social Security eligible? Most of our local "young CFIs" are coming from three places, staying about 12-18 months and moving on. UND, University of North Dakota, Grand Forks ND ERAU, Embry Riddle Aeronautical University, Prescott AZ Utah State University, Logan UT, http://www.usu.edu/majorsheets/04-05/Pilot04.pdf One of my co-workers son completed the Utah State program and stayed as an instructor and is doing very well. BT "Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... As many of you know, my son is taking flight lessons. He's past solo, and into his cross-country flights. He's a senior in high school, and is wondering what to do with the rest of his life. His initial aim has been going into engineering, but has decided that math is not something he truly enjoys. (Although he's good at it -- far, far more advanced than I am.) He's now toying with the idea of a career in aviation. Possibilities include: - Commercial pilot - Helicopter pilot - Something on the business side of aviation. I need some first-hand experiences, please. Hours worked, what to expect at the entry level, how much college does your job require, types of skills required, etc. What kinds of careers are out there right now? What sort of college degree should a 17 year old pursue in order to come out the other end with a successful job in aviation? We're filling out applications for colleges, and his choice of colleges will be steered by his decisions. Your input is very much appreciated! -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Future in Aviation for my Son?
Jay Honeck wrote:
As many of you know, my son is taking flight lessons. He's past solo, and into his cross-country flights. He's a senior in high school, and is wondering what to do with the rest of his life. His initial aim has been going into engineering, but has decided that math is not something he truly enjoys. (Although he's good at it -- far, far more advanced than I am.) He's now toying with the idea of a career in aviation. Possibilities include: - Commercial pilot - Helicopter pilot - Something on the business side of aviation. I need some first-hand experiences, please. Hours worked, what to expect at the entry level, how much college does your job require, types of skills required, etc. What kinds of careers are out there right now? What sort of college degree should a 17 year old pursue in order to come out the other end with a successful job in aviation? We're filling out applications for colleges, and his choice of colleges will be steered by his decisions. Your input is very much appreciated! -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Maybe the field of commercial aviation may be OK but tell him to stay away from the FAA or any aviation related Government employment here in America if he is a heterosexual white male. There is absolutely no future in American Government service or American big business unless he is: 1. Gay 2. A Black Female 3. An Overweight white female with nose warts I would encourage him to pursue flying with a foreign airline and learn another language maybe Chinese. |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
His initial aim has been going into engineering, but has decided that math is not something he truly enjoys. (Although he's good at it -- far, far more advanced than I am.) What type of engineering was he interested in? |
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Future in Aviation for my Son?
On Oct 10, 7:07 pm, "Tom Conner" wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in oglegroups.com... On Oct 10, 6:24 pm, Jay Honeck wrote: As many of you know, my son is taking flight lessons. He's past solo, and into his cross-country flights. He's a senior in high school, and is wondering what to do with the rest of his life. His initial aim has been going into engineering, but has decided that math is not something he truly enjoys. (Although he's good at it -- far, far more advanced than I am.) Become an Engineer and then buy his own plane. Ha, ha. Very funny. Become an engineer and watch your job be out-sourced by some doofus with an MBA who doesn't know which end is up, but can run a spreadsheet. Uh, I'm an engineer with mulitple patents AND an MBA. No shortage of jobs here in the U.S.. I get calls frequently. Lots of companies are having a very, very hard time filling recs in the U.S. There just aren't enough engineers. We have people getting hired right out of school and getting relocation packages to move across the country. Its pretty slim pickings for employeers out there. -Robert' |
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Future in Aviation for my Son?
On Oct 10, 6:24 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:
As many of you know, my son is taking flight lessons. He's past solo, and into his cross-country flights. Yea we know. You flood usnet with every little thing that goes on in your life (G). He's now toying with the idea of a career in aviation. Possibilities include: - Commercial pilot - Helicopter pilot - Something on the business side of aviation. All kidding aside, I can only help you with the first option. Airline pilots make less $$$$ now than they did 10 or 20 years ago (Not complaining here, I am sure this is true of many ocupations) . And the future is bleak. Add to this the complete lack of benifits packages at most carriers and it is not a career path most airline guys will recommend. I need some first-hand experiences, please. Hours worked, what to expect at the entry level, how much college does your job require, types of skills required, etc. What kinds of careers are out there right now? What sort of college degree should a 17 year old pursue in order to come out the other end with a successful job in aviation? As far as college; Tell your boy to do what ever he wants but stay away from most of theses aviation colleges ESPECIALLY Embry Riddle. I have known many who have graduated from there and I have never heard anyone say anything good about the place. Their people are ALLWAYS the last to get hired (This is not a big deal when times are good, but when thing slow down your boy could be tending bar for years). Jay Honeck IA Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com |
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Future in Aviation for my Son?
On Oct 10, 8:30 pm, Richard Riley wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:07:20 -0700, "Tom Conner" wrote: "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 10, 6:24 pm, Jay Honeck wrote: As many of you know, my son is taking flight lessons. He's past solo, and into his cross-country flights. He's a senior in high school, and is wondering what to do with the rest of his life. His initial aim has been going into engineering, but has decided that math is not something he truly enjoys. (Although he's good at it -- far, far more advanced than I am.) Become an Engineer and then buy his own plane. Ha, ha. Very funny. Become an engineer and watch your job be out-sourced by some doofus with an MBA who doesn't know which end is up, but can run a spreadsheet. Become an engineer Get an MBA Become a VP of engineering. Not everyone is that smart. I guess we need to keep jobs around for those with less intellect. -Robert |
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Future in Aviation for my Son?
On Oct 10, 7:10 pm, "BT" wrote:
His "timing" may just be right.. 4yr college degree at an aviation college, get it in management of some type, or engineering may be better and get the ratings... the "bottom of the food chain" is being sucked dry around here. Used to be the local "ditch runners" flying turbo props for tourists to the Grand Canyon required 1500hrs total time and 500 multi now they are taking 500hr pilots with a Commercial Multi Instrument to "ride right seat", entry level wages at $15-16K. Move up to Captain in a couple of years at double the wage. The entry level positions are open, because those Captains with experience are being sucked into the regional's as everyone moves up the food chain with the SBBP (Senior Baby Boomer Pilots) facing mandatory retirement at age. Did I see a report last week that the first of the Baby Boomers are now Medicare and Social Security eligible? Pilots with experience are also getting lured overseas with high wages to help start new national airlines around the world. |
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