Hotellier connections

I was watching my friend struggle with (AD required)safty wires for
Hotellier connectors on his recently purchased Pegasus. He said the
AD notes alternatives to the safty wires like the Wedekind sleeves.
Anyone know if these are retrofittable and where they can be obtained.
I'm sure this has been hashed out on RAS before but I'm new to the
group so apologize for the clutter. TIA:

Mike

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Jim Vincent
N483SZ
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Is your friend using safety wire or is he using the wire clips that look
kinda like a safety pin? I know that it's tough in some gliders no
matter what you're using, but the safety pins we used in our LS-1 were
pretty easy to put in and latch even though it was a totally blind
operation. Lots cheaper too! If you like you can even tether the pins
so if they fall you don't lose them.

Mike wrote:
I was watching my friend struggle with (AD required)safty wires for
Hotellier connectors on his recently purchased Pegasus. He said the
AD notes alternatives to the safty wires like the Wedekind sleeves.
Anyone know if these are retrofittable and where they can be obtained.
I'm sure this has been hashed out on RAS before but I'm new to the
group so apologize for the clutter. TIA:

Mike

I used wire clips for many years on my Pegase...... No problems.
Ed



"Mark Zivley" wrote in message
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Is your friend using safety wire or is he using the wire clips that look
kinda like a safety pin? I know that it's tough in some gliders no matter
what you're using, but the safety pins we used in our LS-1 were pretty
easy to put in and latch even though it was a totally blind operation.
Lots cheaper too! If you like you can even tether the pins so if they
fall you don't lose them.

Mike wrote:
I was watching my friend struggle with (AD required)safty wires for
Hotellier connectors on his recently purchased Pegasus. He said the
AD notes alternatives to the safty wires like the Wedekind sleeves.
Anyone know if these are retrofittable and where they can be obtained.
I'm sure this has been hashed out on RAS before but I'm new to the
group so apologize for the clutter. TIA:

Mike

From what I've read and heard, the best thing to do is get Wedekind.

Jim Vincent
N483SZ
illspam

In article ,
Mark Zivley wrote:
Is your friend using safety wire or is he using the wire clips that look
kinda like a safety pin? I know that it's tough in some gliders no
matter what you're using, but the safety pins we used in our LS-1 were
pretty easy to put in and latch even though it was a totally blind
operation. Lots cheaper too! If you like you can even tether the pins
so if they fall you don't lose them.

Mike wrote:
I was watching my friend struggle with (AD required)safty wires for
Hotellier connectors on his recently purchased Pegasus. He said the
AD notes alternatives to the safty wires like the Wedekind sleeves.
Anyone know if these are retrofittable and where they can be obtained.
I'm sure this has been hashed out on RAS before but I'm new to the
group so apologize for the clutter. TIA:

We put Pegasus Hotellier conections together last weekend: what a pain!
Could they MAKE the access cover any smaller? Hotelliers suck.
I think they just asked me to help because I have
tiny fingers :PPP

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Mark J. Boyd

I got the Wedekind sleeves from a guy by the name of Jurgen Nick (in
the US) four or five years ago. I remember his name but don't have an
e-mail or address for him. They're not difficult to install and made
life MUCH easier when connecting/disconnecting the controls on my
ASW15. They were about $25@, if I recall correctly.

Mike Fadden

(Mark James Boyd) wrote in message news:414ead22$1@darkstar...

We put Pegasus Hotellier conections together last weekend: what a pain!
Could they MAKE the access cover any smaller? Hotelliers suck.
I think they just asked me to help because I have
tiny fingers :PPP

The problem isn't the Hotellier fitting, it's the small access port.
My LS6-b has 4 Hotellier fittings (dive brakes and flaperons) that
take less than a minute to attach, safety (LS sleeves that screw over
the fitting) and check all of them. Easy to do, because they are
accessed from the cockpit via a huge door over the spars. Just as
easy to de-rig.

Almost as quick as some of the "automatic" setups I've helped with!

LS4 was just as easy. OTOH, hooking up a G-102's controls is a pain
by comparison. Those hookups (not Hotelliers) suck.

Kirk

I never have problems with wiring the hotelliers in my Peg. All very visible
and easy to reach - unlike many gliders which require mirrors and feel.
Opening the brakes makes connecting the starboard brake hotellier a little
easier as it is the furthrest from the hatch and opening it moves it towards
the hatch.

During the summer I witnessed a Cirrus with sleeves launch with a
disconnected aileron despite having positive checks. Sleeves, pins or wires,
REALLY positive positive checks with a good amount of force applied to the
control surface/stick is a must.

Safe rigging!



"Mark James Boyd" wrote in message
news:414ead22$1@darkstar...
In article ,
Mark Zivley wrote:
Is your friend using safety wire or is he using the wire clips that look
kinda like a safety pin? I know that it's tough in some gliders no
matter what you're using, but the safety pins we used in our LS-1 were
pretty easy to put in and latch even though it was a totally blind
operation. Lots cheaper too! If you like you can even tether the pins
so if they fall you don't lose them.

Mike wrote:
I was watching my friend struggle with (AD required)safty wires for
Hotellier connectors on his recently purchased Pegasus. He said the
AD notes alternatives to the safty wires like the Wedekind sleeves.
Anyone know if these are retrofittable and where they can be obtained.
I'm sure this has been hashed out on RAS before but I'm new to the
group so apologize for the clutter. TIA:

We put Pegasus Hotellier conections together last weekend: what a pain!
Could they MAKE the access cover any smaller? Hotelliers suck.
I think they just asked me to help because I have
tiny fingers :PPP

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Mark J. Boyd


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REALLY positive positive checks with a good amount of force applied to the
control surface/stick is a must.

I differ with you there...more important to fully deflect control surfaces
under light load throughout the range of the control movement. Have a look at
: http://www.mymedtrans.com/personal.htm

Jim Vincent
N483SZ
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