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HUD view of a near-miss
On 12/12/06 06:03, Ross Richardson wrote:
wrote: Here's a very close call as recorded through the HUD camera of a T-38C. Scott Wilson http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=qLVtstYAZLY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLVtstYAZLY We recently had the safety officer from Sheppard AFB come to our EAA meeting talking about the IR/VR low level routes and all the SUA around the airbase. Then he showed several videos (including this clip). Scary and one clip was a mid-air. I was once flying over Lake Texoma in North Central Texas at 2500' ( ground elevation is ~ 750') and 3 C-130s went UNDER me. That was interesting. Now *that* I would like to see a clip of! Wow! Must have been a fantastic view. -- Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane Cal Aggie Flying Farmers Sacramento, CA |
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HUD view of a near-miss
"Ross Richardson" wrote...
I was once flying over Lake Texoma in North Central Texas at 2500' ( ground elevation is ~ 750') and 3 C-130s went UNDER me. That was interesting. I was coasting in (south TX, late 70s) on a published low-level route where it crossed another one. I was in an A-4 at 500' or so, and a B-52 passed under me. There also used to be a segment of another route in NV (early 90s) where 2 routes ran in opposite directions. They were supposed to be deconflicted by the controlling agency, but it didn't always work. I was in an A-6 at 200' and passed under 1 A-10 going the other way (really -- they weren't JUST slow!) and abeam his wingman. |
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HUD view of a near-miss
In rec.aviation.owning John Weiss wrote:
I was coasting in (south TX, late 70s) on a published low-level route where it crossed another one. I was in an A-4 at 500' or so, and a B-52 passed under me. Since we are telling war stories here... A friend of mine flew A-6s in several Red Flag exercises. He has several such near miss stories. I think the best was when he was running along at about 500' agl when he had a F-16 (F-15?) overtake him from below and then immediately pull up in an immelmann turn in front of him. During the de-briefing, the other pilot was asked about this maneuver and why he did it. Basically, he was focused on what he was doing and never saw the A-6, before, during, or after his turn. -- Frank Stutzman Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl" Hood River, OR |
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HUD view of a near-miss
"Frank Stutzman" wrote...
A friend of mine flew A-6s in several Red Flag exercises. He has several such near miss stories. I think the best was when he was running along at about 500' agl when he had a F-16 (F-15?) overtake him from below and then immediately pull up in an immelmann turn in front of him. During the de-briefing, the other pilot was asked about this maneuver and why he did it. Basically, he was focused on what he was doing and never saw the A-6, before, during, or after his turn. Fat chance! It sounds like a well-known "maneuver" known as "thumping"! Also, I don't think I've ever seen anyone fly lower in exercises like that than the Brits flying Buccaneers for the Oman AF (mid 80s). They would regularly fly under our A-6s that were ingressing at 200' or less... |
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HUD view of a near-miss
John Weiss wrote:
"Frank Stutzman" wrote... A friend of mine flew A-6s in several Red Flag exercises. He has several such near miss stories. I think the best was when he was running along at about 500' agl when he had a F-16 (F-15?) overtake him from below and then immediately pull up in an immelmann turn in front of him. During the de-briefing, the other pilot was asked about this maneuver and why he did it. Basically, he was focused on what he was doing and never saw the A-6, before, during, or after his turn. Fat chance! It sounds like a well-known "maneuver" known as "thumping"! Also, I don't think I've ever seen anyone fly lower in exercises like that than the Brits flying Buccaneers for the Oman AF (mid 80s). They would regularly fly under our A-6s that were ingressing at 200' or less... I'm sorry, I thought you knew . . . 50 feet is low level. Anything higher is cruising-along-on-the-highway-on-a-Sunday-afternoon, aka asking to see if Mr. FlAK is at home :-( |
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HUD view of a near-miss
I've been low level in a B-52 near Hastings Nebraska in the IR route.. in
the turn at 500ft AGL, and had a C-172 go under me. I've also flown the IR Routes in Wyoming and Montana while in B-1s, I've had traffic cross co-altitude near Powell Wyoming again, abotu 500ft AGL. In Montana, at least the crop dusters put out NOTAMs they were there, so we could bump our minimum altitude up to 1000ft AGL and go over the top of them. Yes, we spotten more than a few. BT "Ross Richardson" wrote in message ... wrote: Here's a very close call as recorded through the HUD camera of a T-38C. Scott Wilson http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=qLVtstYAZLY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLVtstYAZLY We recently had the safety officer from Sheppard AFB come to our EAA meeting talking about the IR/VR low level routes and all the SUA around the airbase. Then he showed several videos (including this clip). Scary and one clip was a mid-air. I was once flying over Lake Texoma in North Central Texas at 2500' ( ground elevation is ~ 750') and 3 C-130s went UNDER me. That was interesting. -- Regards, Ross C-172F 180HP KSWI |
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("BT" wrote)
In Montana, at least the crop dusters put out NOTAMs they were there, so we could bump our minimum altitude up to 1000ft AGL and go over the top of them. Yes, we spotten more than a few. Large payload, NAP-of-the-earth flying capability, acres and acres of crops needing spraying, ...hmm? Montblack |
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HUD view of a near-miss
"Montblack" wrote Large payload, NAP-of-the-earth flying capability, acres and acres of crops needing spraying, ...hmm? Yeah, supersonic spraying, very cool, but the turns... Can you say...serious G's? Nothing on the floor of the plane, but a little puddle, where the pilots used to sit...... /;-o) -- Jim in NC |
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HUD view of a near-miss
BT wrote: I've been low level in a B-52 near Hastings Nebraska in the IR route.. in the turn at 500ft AGL, and had a C-172 go under me. I've also flown the IR Routes in Wyoming and Montana while in B-1s, I've had traffic cross co-altitude near Powell Wyoming again, abotu 500ft AGL. In Montana, at least the crop dusters put out NOTAMs they were there, so we could bump our minimum altitude up to 1000ft AGL and go over the top of them. Yes, we spotten more than a few. Yep, call Great Falls flight service and ask if the MOA's in the eastern part of the state are hot and you get this mish mash of times they are hot with all these different altitude. Screw it, going right thru the middle. |
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