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Consequence of shifting carry-on luggage to checked luggage foraircraft weight
BTIZ wrote:
Personally, I don't care about weight and balance. I care that I can't take my contacts out on a transatlantic flight and that the TSA would be shuffling through company secret information if I were to check it on a business trip. Wear your glasses. You can carry papers.. don't check company proprietary information. BT Are you kidding? You think I'd check contact lenses? My eyes aren't correctable to 20/20 with glasses and I can't risk getting to the other end and not having contacts. Can't drive to the airport in glasses, either. And if you think I'm paranoid, the airlines/TSA have a 100% lose/steal rate with my checked luggage. I've learned. |
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don't check company proprietary
information. So, what to do with my palm? Jose -- The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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Jose wrote:
don't check company proprietary information. So, what to do with my palm? Jose I've been getting all sorts of answers like, "oh, just do this" since this whole thing came up. Problem is, you can't "just do that" like people think. It's narrow-minded thinking at its best. |
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Consequence of shifting carry-on luggage to checked luggage for aircraft weight
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 19:39:16 -0500, Emily
wrote: You've got a point, though. Maybe someone should suggest to them that they need to start giving all passengers rectal exams before they board. The TSA is already ****ing us... And you call it a "rectal exam"... You're kinky, Emily... |
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Richard Riley writes:
The Federal Aviation Administration change was reportedly proposed in 2004 after the crash of a passenger carrying aircraft in North Carolina in 2003 that was due in part to the aircraft's uneven weight distribution. The increase in weights take into account the fact that recent research has revealed that passengers' body weights have increased and clothing is generally heavier in winter months." All well and good, but that doesn't resolve the problem I've raised, although what you quote appears to confirm that the average estimated passenger weight _does_ include some presumed weight of carry-on luggage. The problem here is that the presumed weight for carry-on luggage right now is some non-zero number x, when in fact the real carry-on luggage weight is zero. So the calculations are overestimating aircraft weight by x*y, where y is the number of passengers. This can amount to thousands of pounds. I've e-mailed a question about this to the FAA but I have not yet received a reply. Years ago I was told a story by a 727 pilot, about a charter flight where they aborted the takeoff because they weren't getting the accelleration they were expecting. Turned out the flight was a charter by coin collectors, they all had 50-100 lbs of rare, expensive coins in their carry on stuff. I think people should just be weighed with their carry-ons, and forget the political correctness. I'm sure a weighing platform could be installed at security checkpoints so that weight could be checked. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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In article gJSDg.16807$RD.14923@fed1read08, "BTIZ"
wrote: Personally, I don't care about weight and balance. I care that I can't take my contacts out on a transatlantic flight and that the TSA would be shuffling through company secret information if I were to check it on a business trip. Wear your glasses. You can carry papers.. don't check company proprietary information. BT That is completely impractical, and demonstrates absolutely no understanding of why people travel, what people's medical needs are, the lack of security in protecting checked luggage, and the uselessness of fighting yesterday's tactics. -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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Mxsmanic wrote
The problem here is that the presumed weight for carry-on luggage right now is some non-zero number x, when in fact the real carry-on luggage weight is zero. So the calculations are overestimating aircraft weight by x*y, where y is the number of passengers. This can amount to thousands of pounds. However...the same regulation that permits the "average passenger weight", also permits an "average bag weight" in the baggage holds. The airlines that I flew for averaged every thing. No Problem. Bob Moore |
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"Emily" wrote in message ... Jose wrote: don't check company proprietary information. So, what to do with my palm? Jose I've been getting all sorts of answers like, "oh, just do this" since this whole thing came up. Problem is, you can't "just do that" like people think. It's narrow-minded thinking at its best. Well they are now going to let you carry less than 4 oz of some liquids. |
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Bob Moore writes:
However...the same regulation that permits the "average passenger weight", also permits an "average bag weight" in the baggage holds. The airlines that I flew for averaged every thing. No Problem. How far off can aircraft weight be, percentage-wise, before it makes a potentially hazardous difference in flight characteristics? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Consequence of shifting carry-on luggage to checked luggage for aircraft weight
Ron Lee wrote:
You've got a point, though. Maybe someone should suggest to them that they need to start giving all passengers rectal exams before they board. That will happen when a plot uses that method. I am not looking forward to that day. Think of the fun one could have with free rectal exams, however. Makes me appreciate the fact that I never aspired to be a TSA security agent. -- Peter |
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