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Hail damage - loss of value?
My Beech Sundowner sustained some hail damage a few weeks ago. About
15 planes on the ramp (IJD) were hit. I have a fist sized hole in one wingtip and all the control surfaces are dimpled. There's a few on the wing tops and fuse top, but you really have to look in the right light to see them. Tail cone and stab tips also show light damage. What's a real shame is this plane didn't have a mark on it. Had been painted about 4 years ago and looked real sharp. But the reality is, aside from the wingtip, you don't notice the dimpling, I'd say most of it is light to moderate - perfectly airworthy. My A&P is doing up an estimate now and is guessing about 15K, which includes reskinning all the control surfaces. Insured hull value is 46K. So, if I were to turn around and try to sell this plane in the condition it's in, what kind of loss of value am I looking at? Lots of planes out there show some hail damage but never really thought what that impact on value would be. I know one of the insurance options is a "loss of value" check, with the understanding that the repairs won't be made. I also understand that this option is probably the least beneficial to me. So far the adjuster has been great, flew out and looked the plane over and said get an estimate, maybe 2. He says the best option for me would be to get it all fixed... but then it's all in the logs, so i still take somewhat of a hit. Will be interesting to see how this all plays out. |
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Try placing some dry ice on the dents. It will sometimes take them out
if not too old.. |
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The estimates will be high - meaning not worth it. The insurance company will total the plane, write you a check, and sell the plane. Then, if you still want that plane, you buy it - at market value. That way, they take the market value hit. This is what I'm hoping for, but don't think the final number will be high enough. Early estimates are about 15K, which includes reskinning all the control surfaces... probably not enough to total. |
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ups.com... There's a few on the wing tops and fuse top, but you really have to look in the right light to see them. That's no reason to ignore it. This should be included in the repair as well. |
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"Nathan Young" wrote in message ... On 9 Aug 2006 16:23:00 -0700, wrote: My Beech Sundowner sustained some hail damage a few weeks ago. About 15 planes on the ramp (IJD) were hit. I have a fist sized hole in one wingtip and all the control surfaces are dimpled. There's a few on the wing tops and fuse top, but you really have to look in the right light to see them. Tail cone and stab tips also show light damage. What's a real shame is this plane didn't have a mark on it. Had been painted about 4 years ago and looked real sharp. But the reality is, aside from the wingtip, you don't notice the dimpling, I'd say most of it is light to moderate - perfectly airworthy. My A&P is doing up an estimate now and is guessing about 15K, which includes reskinning all the control surfaces. Insured hull value is 46K. $15k probably is a good estimate. $10k for a new paint job with all the bondo work to fill the hail dents on the body and wings. Bondo???? I am not being sarcastic. Is this crap actually used in aircraft repair? 10K sounds about right for decent paint job without sheet metal repair. $5k to reskin the ailerons, flaps, and elevators is light, but not out of the ballpark. I had to reskin one aileron on a 182 and 5K to reskin, paint and balance all control surfaces seems pretty inexpensive. My understanding from the original post was that the $15K was for reskinning control surfaces which seems about right. If the work is done correctly, the plane will look better out of the shop than it did before the hail. This should help offset the value of having reskinning entries in the logbook. -Nathan Howard |
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:03:54 GMT, "Howard Nelson"
wrote: "Nathan Young" wrote in message .. . On 9 Aug 2006 16:23:00 -0700, wrote: $10k for a new paint job with all the bondo work to fill the hail dents on the body and wings. Bondo???? I am not being sarcastic. Is this crap actually used in aircraft repair? 10K sounds about right for decent paint job without sheet metal repair. Well, it probably is not automotive bondo, but there definitely is a a sandable filler that paint shops use to cover hail damage and misc dings. It must be an aviation grade bondo. :-) I had to reskin one aileron on a 182 and 5K to reskin, paint and balance all control surfaces seems pretty inexpensive. My understanding from the original post was that the $15K was for reskinning control surfaces which seems about right. I had one of my ailerons reskinned (Cherokee), and recall it to be around $1k. The paint and balance would be done in the paint shop anyway, so that cost should not be calculated into the reskin cost. So, $5k is light, but I don't think outrageously low. $15k seems substantially too high. However, I do not know how much a flap skin or elevator skin costs. Also, the OP's aircraft was a Beech, so perhaps the skins cost more, or the amount of manhours to replace is higher than my Cherokee. |
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Hail damage - loss of value?
Go to Jenkins airport in Delaware. Aviation junkyard. You can get
what you need for about one tenth your estimates. Look up Joe Jenkins in phone book. .. |
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