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Old December 13th 06, 05:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gig 601XL Builder
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Default Family awarded $3.5 million in Citation crash

The courts really ought to require that all the facts are in before allowing
the suits to go forward.

From AOPA
A February 2005 crash has resulted in a $3.5 million out-of-court settlement
for the family of a Circuit City buyer who was a passenger on the flight to
Pueblo Memorial Airport, Colorado. All eight aboard the aircraft were
killed. The payment will be made by Circuit City and Martinair, the
Richmond, Virginia-based manager of the aircraft. The NTSB has not
determined a cause for the accident, but pilots mentioned icing shortly
before the crash while on an approach to Runway 26R in IMC conditions.


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Old December 13th 06, 05:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Family awarded $3.5 million in Citation crash

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
The courts really ought to require that all the facts are in before allowing
the suits to go forward.

From AOPA
A February 2005 crash has resulted in a $3.5 million out-of-court settlement
for the family of a Circuit City buyer who was a passenger on the flight to
Pueblo Memorial Airport, Colorado. All eight aboard the aircraft were
killed. The payment will be made by Circuit City and Martinair, the
Richmond, Virginia-based manager of the aircraft. The NTSB has not
determined a cause for the accident, but pilots mentioned icing shortly
before the crash while on an approach to Runway 26R in IMC conditions.


Lawyers would always rather get their cut without actually having to go
to court and do some work.
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Old December 13th 06, 07:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Family awarded $3.5 million in Citation crash

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:39:33 -0600, Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

The courts really ought to require that all the facts are in before
allowing the suits to go forward.


I recall reading that NTSB analysis could not be cited in a court case. I
don't know if this precludes the use of the NTSB staffers as expert
witnesses.

But would appear that the fact that the NTSB hadn't yet reached a
conclusion would have no bearing on the legal case if its conclusion
couldn't be cited.

The idea is weird, though, considering that part of the NTSB's mandate is
to determine an accident's cause.

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Old December 13th 06, 07:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default Family awarded $3.5 million in Citation crash

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:39:33 -0600, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in :

The courts really ought to require that all the facts are in before allowing
the suits to go forward.


Is there any evidence that the family had filed suit?

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Old December 13th 06, 08:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:39:33 -0600, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in :

The courts really ought to require that all the facts are in before
allowing
the suits to go forward.


Is there any evidence that the family had filed suit?


I'll be damned your right...

"Harmon's estate did not sue the companies. The settlement was reached out
of court before any documents were ever filed. The agreement reached last
month releases the companies from any further claims in Harmon's death."

....but some of the others involved have.

"The families of two other Circuit City employees from Virginia killed in
the crash, David Joseph Coffman and Aaron Iskowitz, have filed lawsuits that
are pending. The lawsuits allege the Cessna's wing de-icing and ice
detecting mechanisms were defective."



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Old December 13th 06, 08:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Family awarded $3.5 million in Citation crash

I recall reading that NTSB analysis could not be cited in a court case.[...]
The idea is weird, though, considering that part of the NTSB's mandate is
to determine an accident's cause.


It removes a source of pressure on the NTSB to alter their findings.

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Old December 13th 06, 08:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default Family awarded $3.5 million in Citation crash

On 13 Dec 2006 09:44:35 -0800, "Gene Seibel" wrote
in . com:

Lawyers would always rather get their cut without actually having to go
to court and do some work.


Implicit in that point of view is the notion that the family's
attorney was working on a percentage basis.

Other motivations for an early settlement may be the fact that the
family will receive their payment sooner, and there is less likelihood
of the family learning of the amounts of settlements in similar cases.
So the result may be that Circuit City's costs are reduced.



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Old December 13th 06, 09:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
peter
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Default Family awarded $3.5 million in Citation crash

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
The courts really ought to require that all the facts are in before allowing
the suits to go forward.

From AOPA
A February 2005 crash has resulted in a $3.5 million out-of-court settlement
for the family of a Circuit City buyer who was a passenger on the flight to
Pueblo Memorial Airport, Colorado.


There's not much the courts can do about *out-of-court* settlements
made voluntarily by the parties involved.

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Old December 13th 06, 10:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Family awarded $3.5 million in Citation crash

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

The courts really ought to require that all the facts are in before allowing
the suits to go forward.


An out-of-court settlement never sees a court, which is why it's
called an _out-of-court_ settlement.

I wonder why Circuit City and Martinair caved in so easily. What did
they do that makes them liable for anything?

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Old December 13th 06, 10:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default Family awarded $3.5 million in Citation crash

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:19:22 GMT, Jose
wrote in :

It removes a source of pressure on the NTSB to alter their findings.


Except when the NTSB is investigating military and governmental
accidents. :-(
 




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