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Old February 27th 07, 09:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Doug writes:

Glassy water makes the pilot think he is higher than he actually is.
Numerous crashes from this effect.


If they are looking at a houseboat, they have an excellent idea of where the
surface actually is. And if one of them said "watch the wheels," they knew
they weren't at 2000 feet.

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Old February 27th 07, 09:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Viperdoc writes:

Why does it seem like there's a disproportionate number of Cirrus flyers
making questionable flying decisions- losing control at high altitude and
popping the chute, taking off into low IMC after major maintenance, etc.


Many Cirrus owners are probably low-time pilots. Inexperienced pilots
represent the majority of GA accidents due to pilot error.

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Old February 27th 07, 09:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Peter R. writes:

It must be the "low-time pilot" excitement in experiencing the increased
G-forces. The Cirrus that spun into the ground here in upstate NY back in
2002, killing both pilot/owners inside, was seen at a nearby airport 30
minutes before the crash performing the exact same maneuvers.


The quest for strong, visceral sensation seems to afflict many GA pilots.

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Old February 27th 07, 10:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Yep, it used to be Doctors and Bonanzas


Have doctors become better pilots, or have they stopped buying
Bonanzas?


Probably the latter.


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Old February 27th 07, 10:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Probably the latter.


What do doctors buy today? Cirrus?

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Old February 27th 07, 10:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Probably the latter.


What do doctors buy today? Cirrus?


At least around here they aren't buying airplanes at near the rate they used
to.


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Old February 27th 07, 10:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I hereby nominate him/them 2007 Candidate(s) for the Darwin Award.

They don't qualify. One requirement is losing the ability to reproduce
(either by death or other means).


There have been inclusions for people who survived, before. I think they
call them honorable mentions.
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Old February 28th 07, 12:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

At least around here they aren't buying airplanes at near the rate they used
to.


How come?

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Old February 28th 07, 12:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Kinda makes ya wonder why they didn't just swim to the houseboat or
the boaters didn't rescue them, instead they swam for an hour to reach
shore. Them Mormans are startin to scare me,. G
On Feb 26, 8:26Â*pm, john smith wrote:
Gold Medal Olympic Wrestler Rulon Gardner Survives Plane Crash, Swims to
Safety in Cold Lake

From FOX NEWS...
Monday, February 26, 2007

SALT LAKE CITY Â*‹ Â*Olympic wrestling champion Rulon Gardner lost a toe
to frostbite after being stranded in the wilderness, impaled himself
with an arrow and was involved in a serious motorcycle accident.

In his latest escape from death, he survived a plane crash over the
weekend into the aptly named Good Hope Bay on the Utah-Arizona border.

"I think I'm really lucky," Gardner told CNN on Monday, "after
everything I have been through."

Gardner and two Utah brothers were rescued by a fisherman Sunday after
swimming more than an hour in 44-degree water and spending the night
without shelter.

None suffered life-threatening injuries, authorities said.

"It takes only about 30 minutes for someone swimming in 44-degree water
to start suffering the effects of hypothermia, so the fact that they
swam in it for an hour, not to mention surviving the plane crash and the
night without fire or shelter, is pretty amazing," said Steven Luckesen,
a district ranger at Glen Canyon National Recreation Area. "If these
guys were a cat with nine lives, they just used up three of them."

(Story continues below)

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Since delivering one of the great Olympic upsets at the 2000 Sydney
Games, the 35-year-old Gardner has had a history of harrowing escapes.

In 2002, he became stranded while snowmobiling in the Wyoming and lost a
toe. Then in 2004, he was struck by an automobile while riding a
motorcycle. Back in third grade, he punctured his abdomen with an arrow
at a class show-and-tell.

The lesson, Gardner said, is "hopefully teach people to be smarter about
the choices they make."

In his latest brush, Gardner was a passenger in a Cirrus SR 22 with
pilot Randy Brooks and brother Leslie. They were looking at a houseboat
from the air when the plane dipped into the water, Garfield County
public information officer Becki Bronson said.

"The plane went from 150 mph to none in about 2 seconds," Gardner told
CNN. "Within about a half a second is when we knew that things went from
a beautiful day, a beautiful afternoon, all the way to a pretty bad
situation."

Authorities were uncertain of the exact location of the crash and were
investigating the cause.

When he went into the water, Gardner said he quickly grabbed his coat.
He remembered how cold he'd gotten after getting lost on the snowmobile
five years ago.

That's when the Brooks brothers told him to drop everything.

"It's either your stuff or your life," Gardner recalled them saying. "I
was really struggling."

Gardner said he wasn't a good swimmer and was worried he'd be left alone
in the water.

"I said, 'Don't leave me. Come back and get me,"' he said. "They said,
'Hey, just relax, calm down. We're not leaving you. Get on your back,
and start doing basically backstroke."

Gardner said he didn't get too nervous about the water temperature. It
"wasn't really anything I thought about because we were safe. We had
just survived a plane wreck."

Once they reached the shore, Gardner said, there were other concerns. He
was wearing only a T-shirt and jeans, having kicked off his shoes to
swim, and there were limited supplies.

"We came together and we said, 'OK, let's try to dry our clothes out
before the sun goes down.'

"Nobody is going to see us before sunset because most of the boats had
already gone by. I said let's dry everything out," he said.

Gardner said they tried to build a small shelter out of the rocks. The
three men huddled through the night to keep warm.

Once they were rescued, Gardner and the brothers called a relative to
take them for medical attention.

"Miraculously, the three sustained no life-threatening injuries, mainly
suffering from hypothermia injuries to their feet," Garfield County
authorities said in a statement.

Gardner stunned the Olympics seven years ago when he earned the gold
medal in Greco-Roman wrestling by ending Alexander Karelin's 13-year
international winning streak. In 2004 in Athens, Gardner won the bronze
medal, and in wrestling tradition, left his shoes on the mat as a
symbolic way of announcing his retirement.

In 2004, Gardner was on a motorcycle and going to wrestling practice
when he crashed in Colorado Springs, Colo. He sustained no serious
injuries even though he went over the top of his handlebars after his
bike collided with a car. Gardner came away with abrasions to his left
side and a sore right heel.

In grade school, he injured himself with an arrow while his parents were
out of town. He was taken to the emergency room and a doctor said
Gardner had just missed puncturing a vital organ.



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Old February 28th 07, 05:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I was at a nearby airport a couple weeks ago, looking for a possible
hangar/tie-down closer to home. Chatting with the owner of the
newly built hangars, we started (as always) what aircraft we've
flown/owned. He pointed out a brand-new SR22. The owners were washing
it as we spoke. And, the hangar owner/landlord explained the owners
had bought the SR22 and had yet to take a flying lesson, but they
were planning on it real soon. And no, it wasn't going to be put
into rental status.

Scary.


 




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