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Old March 6th 04, 01:18 AM
ville terminale
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Michael P. Reed wrote in message . ..
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how good were they against american pilots?


They were better than the Chinese pilots, and if you believe Soviet claims,
they shot down near the entire production run of F-86s. g



of course they are nonsense. an american pilot was probably 5 times
as good as the best russian pilot.
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Old March 6th 04, 12:59 PM
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"ville terminale" wrote in message
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Michael P. Reed wrote in message

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In message , gayboy

wrote:

how good were they against american pilots?


They were better than the Chinese pilots, and if you believe Soviet

claims,
they shot down near the entire production run of F-86s. g



of course they are nonsense. an american pilot was probably 5 times
as good as the best russian pilot.


Just out of curious how do you come out with the claim the American pilot
was 5
time as good as the best russian pilot, I think you are talking rubbish.


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Old March 6th 04, 01:28 PM
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"john" wrote in message
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"ville terminale" wrote in message
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Michael P. Reed wrote in message

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In message , gayboy

wrote:

how good were they against american pilots?

They were better than the Chinese pilots, and if you believe Soviet

claims,
they shot down near the entire production run of F-86s. g



of course they are nonsense. an american pilot was probably 5 times
as good as the best russian pilot.


Just out of curious how do you come out with the claim the American pilot
was 5
time as good as the best russian pilot, I think you are talking rubbish.



One thing we do know...the Mig 15 was pretty useless unless it had the
British Rolls-Royce engine in it...which BTW, the design was stolen from a
German prototype. The Mig 15 wasn't really a Russian aircraft, it was much
more German in its origins.


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Old March 6th 04, 01:33 PM
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id est..the design for the engine was stolen from the Brits. The design for
the aircraft was stolen from the Germans.


"Stinky Pete" wrote in message
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"john" wrote in message
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"ville terminale" wrote in message
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Michael P. Reed wrote in message

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In message , gayboy

wrote:

how good were they against american pilots?

They were better than the Chinese pilots, and if you believe Soviet

claims,
they shot down near the entire production run of F-86s. g


of course they are nonsense. an american pilot was probably 5 times
as good as the best russian pilot.


Just out of curious how do you come out with the claim the American

pilot
was 5
time as good as the best russian pilot, I think you are talking rubbish.



One thing we do know...the Mig 15 was pretty useless unless it had the
British Rolls-Royce engine in it...which BTW, the design was stolen from a
German prototype. The Mig 15 wasn't really a Russian aircraft, it was much
more German in its origins.




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Old March 6th 04, 07:38 PM
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"Stinky Pete" wrote in message
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id est..the design for the engine was stolen from the Brits.


Not so much stolen as given away. The post war UK
government sold a small number of engines to the
USSR hoping for a larger order. All they did was
copy it.

Keith


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Old March 6th 04, 07:59 PM
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In message , "Keith Willshaw" wrote:

"Stinky Pete" wrote in message
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id est..the design for the engine was stolen from the Brits.


Not so much stolen as given away. The post war UK
government sold a small number of engines to the
USSR hoping for a larger order. All they did was
copy it.


To bad the SCO Group was not around then, eh?

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Old March 6th 04, 10:48 PM
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"john" wrote in message ...
"ville terminale" wrote in message
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Michael P. Reed wrote in message

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In message , gayboy

wrote:

how good were they against american pilots?

They were better than the Chinese pilots, and if you believe Soviet

claims,
they shot down near the entire production run of F-86s. g



of course they are nonsense. an american pilot was probably 5 times
as good as the best russian pilot.


Just out of curious how do you come out with the claim the American pilot
was 5
time as good as the best russian pilot, I think you are talking rubbish.


better training, diet, morale, spirit, and better jets.
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Old March 6th 04, 11:59 PM
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In article ,
Michael P. Reed wrote:
In message , "Keith Willshaw" wrote:

Not so much stolen as given away. The post war UK
government sold a small number of engines to the
USSR hoping for a larger order. All they did was
copy it.


To bad the SCO Group was not around then, eh?

Good thing for the Russians they didn't pirate software...or music CDs.

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| If you don't, flee.
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Old March 7th 04, 01:02 PM
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"ville terminale" wrote in message
om...
"john" wrote in message

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"ville terminale" wrote in message
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Michael P. Reed wrote in message

. ..
In message , gayboy

wrote:

how good were they against american pilots?

They were better than the Chinese pilots, and if you believe Soviet

claims,
they shot down near the entire production run of F-86s. g


of course they are nonsense. an american pilot was probably 5 times
as good as the best russian pilot.


Just out of curious how do you come out with the claim the American

pilot
was 5
time as good as the best russian pilot, I think you are talking rubbish.


better training, diet, morale, spirit, and better jets.

None of the above are necesarily true at that time.


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Old March 8th 04, 04:34 PM
Raymond Chuang
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"ville terminale" wrote in message
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of course they are nonsense. an american pilot was probably 5 times
as good as the best russian pilot.


The Russian pilots acquited themselves well flying the MiG-15 in combat over
Korea but the fact they couldn't communicate in Russian and the problem of
the MiG-15 suffering from yaw instability problems above Mach 0.87 limited
the success of the plane. Indeed, a couple of Russian pilots tried to
outdive the F-86 but the MiG-15 ended up breaking up in the air instead.

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Raymond Chuang
Sacramento, CA USA


 




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