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"Michael Petukhov" wrote in message om... "Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ... "Michael Petukhov" wrote in message om... "Mark Test" wrote in message ... And this has what to do with sci.military.naval???? Lots. For instance US NAVY was playing an important role in the US moon landing hoax. After all it was NAVY who recovered return module with new portion of US heros. Michael Micheal just wants to establish his credibility so we all know how seriously to take him when he posts on other topics. Hm... never minded about my credibility in this NG particularly in your Keith eyes. Don't worry cuz you have no credibility to worry about. It is you Keith who care so much about my credibility every time I post something new on US moon landing hoax. I think he's doing a good job Sure I do a good job. now even you Keith know where NASA took their 400+kg of moon rocks. Not bad indeed. Enjoy Michael Keith |
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"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" wrote in message ... Bill Silvey wrote: "Michael Petukhov" wrote in message om snip Komrad Mikey, why do you continue on with this outrageous stupidity? I know your burning hatred for everyone not Russian or who doesn't adhere to the Soviet point of view clouds your vision quite a bit, but I *do* find it amazing that you can't accept scientific facts - that the United States sent not one but three men to the moon, all of whom returned successfully, several times. That your nation failed to do so has to be the only reason for this continued petulence on your part. If I were you I'd seek psychological help, but not in your own nation, good lord no! Please, seek *reliable* mental health care somewhere in the west. Please, Mr. Silvey. Why would you want to invite Mr. Petukhov out of Russia. They have especially well developed psychiatric facilities in Russia, left over from the soviet system. -- Rostyk Yeah but Sticky, you know perfectly well...insane people were not kept in Russian whacko bins. They were for housing handicapped and the political disbelievers. |
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"D.K." wrote in message ... In article , "usertx" wrote: "Michael Petukhov" wrote in message . com... indeed. although as far as I know USSR also never officialy said these lunar expeditions were for real. It was ignored in fact. USSR was perhaps the only country in the world where "US moon landings" were not broadcasted live on TV. Michael US moon landings were broadcasting in USSR! You are just too young to remember. Yep, they were broadcast. I vaguely remember it when I was a kid. What I'd like to know is how widely Soviet space achievements (Sputnik, Gagarin, Leonov, Tereshkova) were popularized in the USA? Not at all. Sputnik created the space race...which Russia eventually lost, but you won't find a single yankee soul who knows who Tereshkova was. |
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Michael, you have been smoking that Afghani hashish again!
"Michael Petukhov" wrote in message om... "Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ... "Michael Petukhov" wrote in message om... "Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ... "Michael Petukhov" wrote in message om... "Mark Test" wrote in message ... And this has what to do with sci.military.naval???? Lots. For instance US NAVY was playing an important role in the US moon landing hoax. After all it was NAVY who recovered return module with new portion of US heros. Michael Micheal just wants to establish his credibility so we all know how seriously to take him when he posts on other topics. Hm... never minded about my credibility in this NG particularly in your Keith eyes. It is you Keith who care so much about my credibility every time I post something new on US moon landing hoax. I think he's doing a good job Sure I do a good job. now even you Keith know where NASA took their 400+kg of moon rocks. Not bad indeed. You'll have to try harder than that Michael The only way we know so called Lunar meteorites are from the moon is by comparing them with the samples retrieved. There are only two sources for such reference samples, the Apollo Missions and the Soviet lander Not necessary. This is because you are not a scientist Keith. Otherwise you would know that humans never landed on Sun and other distant stars (at least officially) but its material compositions are known from spectroscopy data. Some elements (helium for instance) were first discovered on Sun and only after that was found on Earth. As for the Lunar materials... well a standard marker composition can be easily measured by an automatical probe and results send here by radio. They did send automatical probes (Surveyors) to moon prior "manned missions", did'n they? Moreover it was easy to guess about some picularities of moon rocks, like extreme lack of water or free oxigen and certain minerals which are known to originate from nonexistent on moon processes. Given big enough meteorite collection it is easy to design such a marker set. Just a piece of cake, Keith! by the way Keith so far NASA did not claim to land man on Mars or in asteroid belt rocks, but meteorites from all these places are easy to recognize and of course is on sell with certificates as well. So if you believe the Americans faked their samples by buying lunar meteorites they would have to know the nature of the lunar rocks or to fake or get the Soviets to buy similar fakes for their lander several years later. "If" is not a proper wording here, keith. They knew for sure. Then of course their the problem of buying 400 kg of different meteorite fragments with nobody noticing. why? somebody was noticing. As far as I know so far no lunar meteorites were officially found in US soil while it is estimated to be around of a few % of all meteorites found today. Don't you think it is a bit of strange give US with US huge deserts? Although of course you don't. particularly given that NASA was known to buy lots of them from privat persons all over the world. I'm afraid all you did is demonstrate how prejudice can lead even intelligent people astary. Never say never, Keith. European SMART-1 is on the way to moon and japanese Lunar-A and Selene are getting ready to follow soon. They can send us very unexpected pictures of Apollo landing sites. US privat company's "TrailBlazer" can do in principle but who in a good mind can trust US data? Not me at least. Michael Keith |
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B2431 wrote: From: Alan Minyard a NASA even built a "zero-G" test rig to try out the landers controls. It had a lift engine that could be throttled to exactly balance out the weight of the rig, so the thrusted operated at "zero-G" Al Minyard I think they had more than one. I recall a pilot punching out of one just before it crashed. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired Fella name of Armstrong. Probably ruined his career, busting up the gear like that. Wonder whatever happened to him........ Bob McKellar |
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"Bob McKellar" wrote in message
B2431 wrote: From: Alan Minyard a NASA even built a "zero-G" test rig to try out the landers controls. It had a lift engine that could be throttled to exactly balance out the weight of the rig, so the thrusted operated at "zero-G" Al Minyard I think they had more than one. I recall a pilot punching out of one just before it crashed. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired Fella name of Armstrong. Probably ruined his career, busting up the gear like that. Wonder whatever happened to him........ Bob McKellar Went on to do some flight testing for equipment with some alphabet-soup organization down on the sleepy part of Florida's east coast, IIRC. Some government branch or something. It's rumored after that one incident that only two other guys in the whole place would fly with him. Sad, really. ;-) -- http://www.delversdungeon.dragonsfoot.org Remove the X's in my email address to respond. "Damn you Silvey, and your endless fortunes." - Stephen Weir I hate furries. |
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"Bill Silvey" wrote:
"Bob McKellar" wrote in message B2431 wrote: From: Alan Minyard a NASA even built a "zero-G" test rig to try out the landers controls. It had a lift engine that could be throttled to exactly balance out the weight of the rig, so the thrusted operated at "zero-G" Al Minyard I think they had more than one. I recall a pilot punching out of one just before it crashed. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired Fella name of Armstrong. Probably ruined his career, busting up the gear like that. Wonder whatever happened to him........ Bob McKellar Went on to do some flight testing for equipment with some alphabet-soup organization down on the sleepy part of Florida's east coast, IIRC. Some government branch or something. It's rumored after that one incident that only two other guys in the whole place would fly with him. Sad, really. ;-) Sounds familiar...isn't he the guy who got a little off course and landed his craft on some little used spot something like a quarter of a million miles from home?...I hear that he got it back home ok though, lucky for him. -- -Gord. |
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Snuffy Smith wrote: snip Not at all. Sputnik created the space race...which Russia eventually lost, but you won't find a single yankee soul who knows who Tereshkova was. Uh -- don't bet on that, Sparky. |
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Not at all. Sputnik created the space race...which Russia eventually lost,
but you won't find a single yankee soul who knows who Tereshkova was. The first true space passenger, and a woman besides. As for the publicity that early Soviet launches recieved, I have two framed newspapers over my desk - one is of Yuri's flight, the other is Carpenter's first flight. Coverage on both events is remarkably similar, and comprise the entire front page of the Houston newspapers. Folks in the US knew all about Sputnik and Gagarin - those two flights were always discussed in the context of the flashpoint for the space race. I have a pretty vivid memory of a talking head explaining the difference between models of the Saturn V and Soviet launch vehicles. v/r Gordon PS, whoever assumed no one north of the Mason/Dixon would know who Tereshkova was needs to remember that it was a space *race*, and Americans sure as heck knew who else was in the race. As for painting all Americans with the broad-brush term of "Yankee", well, that's just plain quaint. |
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