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and now for soemthing completely different:
the ICON A5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpNBNg4JzeQ about 140AMUs and boy, this is a cockpit from this century, not like most of the other crap on the market. #m |
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On 2008-08-02, Martin Hotze wrote:
and boy, this is a cockpit from this century, not like most of the other crap on the market. Too bad it's aggressively VFR-only and, as far as I could tell, completely non-upgradeable - with a nonstandard instrument layout, *tiny* engine gauges, one com radio, no nav radios, and a mode C transponder, and that's it. It suffers from a 2008 version of the 1940s tendency to try to make airplane panels look like automobile dashboards. It didn't work then, and it doesn't work now. Airplanes are not cars, and shouldn't try to act like them. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!) |
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Jay Maynard schrieb:
On 2008-08-02, Martin Hotze wrote: and boy, this is a cockpit from this century, not like most of the other crap on the market. Too bad it's aggressively VFR-only and, .... and it is a LSA, so I'd have no problem with this. as far as I could tell, completely non-upgradeable - with a nonstandard instrument layout, *tiny* engine gauges, one com radio, no nav radios, and a mode C transponder, and that's it. it is a LSA; weight matters. Out of the video: you can upgrade: automatic wingfold, retrectable gear, parachute. It suffers from a 2008 version of the 1940s tendency to try to make airplane panels look like automobile dashboards. It didn't work then, and it doesn't work now. Airplanes are not cars, and shouldn't try to act like them. I don't care about the car-design, but I like the modern and european look. #m |
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On 2008-08-02, Martin Hotze wrote:
Jay Maynard schrieb: On 2008-08-02, Martin Hotze wrote: and boy, this is a cockpit from this century, not like most of the other crap on the market. Too bad it's aggressively VFR-only and, ... and it is a LSA, so I'd have no problem with this. Who says an LSA has to be VFR-only? Mine's not. as far as I could tell, completely non-upgradeable - with a nonstandard instrument layout, *tiny* engine gauges, one com radio, no nav radios, and a mode C transponder, and that's it. it is a LSA; weight matters. Out of the video: you can upgrade: automatic wingfold, retrectable gear, parachute. And still a fixed, non-upgradeable panel. What happens when ADS-B is required? (This will happen one day, hopefully in a better form than the FAA tried the first time.) It suffers from a 2008 version of the 1940s tendency to try to make airplane panels look like automobile dashboards. It didn't work then, and it doesn't work now. Airplanes are not cars, and shouldn't try to act like them. I don't care about the car-design, but I like the modern and european look. The "modern, European look" is intended to look like a Porsche or BMW. Car. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!) |
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Jay Maynard schrieb:
I don't care about the car-design, but I like the modern and european look. The "modern, European look" is intended to look like a Porsche or BMW. Car. this is OK for me; I don't like the Cessna et-al desgins. #m |
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On 2008-08-02, Martin Hotze wrote:
Jay Maynard schrieb: I don't care about the car-design, but I like the modern and european look. The "modern, European look" is intended to look like a Porsche or BMW. Car. this is OK for me; I don't like the Cessna et-al desgins. Form follows function. ICON got it backwards. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!) |
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Jay Maynard schrieb:
this is OK for me; I don't like the Cessna et-al desgins. Form follows function. ICON got it backwards. what's not OK for you out of the ICOM functions? IMHO it is a pure recreational "tool", comparable to a quad, or a jetski(?), etc.; the main "use" is for having fun, flying for a $100 burger, ... it flies and floats (well, then you should rather rent than buy *gggg*). #m |
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On 2008-08-02, Martin Hotze wrote:
Jay Maynard schrieb: this is OK for me; I don't like the Cessna et-al desgins. Form follows function. ICON got it backwards. what's not OK for you out of the ICOM functions? IMHO it is a pure recreational "tool", comparable to a quad, or a jetski(?), etc.; the main "use" is for having fun, flying for a $100 burger, ... If I'm going to spend $150K on an airplane, it's going to be used, and useful, for more than just flying around for fun. It's a transportation tool. The A5 is aimed at the guy who'd buy a Cigarette boat, not at the pilot who wants to go places. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!) |
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Jay Maynard schrieb:
If I'm going to spend $150K on an airplane, well, $150K is now not that much any more than it was earlier, the exchange rate is in our favour. it's going to be used, and useful, for more than just flying around for fun. It's a transportation tool. hmm, if I'd buy a flying transportation tool it would be something like a D-Jet or a DA-42, but nothing like a C172 or similar. The A5 is aimed at the guy who'd buy a Cigarette boat, not at the pilot who wants to go places. Or at the recreational pilot, flying with +1 for fun (still going places, but VFR, though). #m |
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message ... and now for soemthing completely different: the ICON A5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpNBNg4JzeQ about 140AMUs and boy, this is a cockpit from this century, not like most of the other crap on the market. #m It is a very nice plane. It will be interesting to see if they can hold that price point. |
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