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Art, you never took over the stick during climbout? I used to pester my pilots
constantly about getting up front - it was a running joke with them. Interesting about the Norden, flying the plane. In the after rescue station on the SH-3, we had a "Coolie Hat" controller in order to fly the helo over a downed airman. At some point in the H-3s history, someone realized that the pilots couldn't actually see straight down to hover over a survivor - even with constant calls from the drycrewman, the hover usually 'wandered' a bit, making recoveries more complicated. The solution was to give a small amount of control, something on the order of 5-10 knots in any direction, usually with quite a bit less, about 1-2 knots which is basically a drift) to the crewman in the back. Pilots entered a steady hover using full instruments and visual procedures and when they were comfortablely settled, they turned control over to the kid in the back, who could motor around a bit. We discovered that the pilots could give us a lot MORE speed, but naturally it was not their choice. "No, its just barely moving." "But I turned it up?" "I don't know why - we're just barely drifting. It'll take us forever to get - " "Ok, ok - try it now" "Roger that." yee Haaw. I suppose gazing down through the rubber eyepiece of the Norden at an approaching bridge would be somewhat less fun, and with quite a bit more pucker. v/r Gordon |
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Subject: Which Military Service is best?
From: nt (Krztalizer) Date: 9/8/2004 3:52 PM Pacific Standard Time Art, you never took over the stick during climbout? I used to pester my pilots constantly about getting up front - it was a running joke with them. Interesting about the Norden, Conditions permitting I got a good many hours of stick time in the B-26, C-47, C-46 and a Feisler Storch we had captured and used as a pufdl;e jumper around Schleissheim. Lotta fun. But doing a final in the B-26 at 110 IAS at a steep approach angle to the runway could curl your hair. I suppose gazing down through the rubber eyepiece of the Norden at an approaching bridge would be somewhat less fun, and with quite a bit more pucker. Especially when the view of the bridge is paritally obscured by big black bursts of flak with hot red centers. (sheesh) Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
... | Subject: Which Military Service is best? | | Conditions permitting I got a good many hours of stick time in the B-26, C-47, | C-46 and a Feisler Storch we had captured and used as a pufdl;e jumper around | Schleissheim. Lotta fun. But doing a final in the B-26 at 110 IAS at a steep | approach angle to the runway could curl your hair. | | I suppose gazing down through the rubber eyepiece of the Norden at an | approaching bridge would be somewhat less fun, and with quite a bit more | pucker. | | Especially when the view of the bridge is paritally obscured by big black | bursts of flak with hot red centers. (sheesh) | | | Arthur Kramer | 344th BG 494th BS Was the Storch still during wartime Art ? If so, was there any trepidation in flying around a war zone in a German aircraft, even after a new paintjob and new licence plates ? One would imagine if it were possible to identify the aircraft, it would still be light enough to see the Star and Bars and the pilot waving at the Mustangs - or the ground gunners. Cheers Dave Kearton |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... What did you fly? And what did YOU fly, Art? Bombadiers don't get stick time. Yes they do via the Norden bombsight during those final moments when it really counts.. So you didn't actually FLY the plane. Wannabe. You realy know zero on this subject wannabee. |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... What did you fly? And what did YOU fly, Art? Bombadiers don't get stick time. Yes they do via the Norden bombsight during those final moments when it really counts.. So you didn't actually FLY the plane. Wannabe. You realy know zero on this subject wannabee. Hey, I never claimed to FLY the plane. How much stick time did you have as pilot or copilot again? I thought Art plonked me ages ago. Another instance of his hypocrisy. |
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Subject: Which Military Service is best?
From: "Ragnar" Date: 9/9/2004 1:48 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... What did you fly? And what did YOU fly, Art? Bombadiers don't get stick time. Yes they do via the Norden bombsight during those final moments when it really counts.. So you didn't actually FLY the plane. Wannabe. You realy know zero on this subject wannabee. Hey, I never claimed to FLY the plane. How much stick time did you have as pilot or copilot again? I thought Art plonked me ages ago. Another instance of his hypocrisy. No ****head. I bought a new computer and failed to transfer all the plonks when I got it. You fell through the cracke asshole but I'm fixing that now wannabee. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Art wrote:
Conditions permitting I got a good many hours of stick time in the B-26, C-47, C-46 and a Feisler Storch we had captured and used as a pufdl;e jumper around Schleissheim Which model Storch? The one with the gun position in the rear? Or the Ambulance/VIP versions? Did they (we) repaint the whole airplane or just paint out the German markings and apply U.S. markings? Rick Clark |
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Subject: Which Military Service is best?
From: (OXMORON1) Date: 9/9/2004 7:18 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Art wrote: Conditions permitting I got a good many hours of stick time in the B-26, C-47, C-46 and a Feisler Storch we had captured and used as a pufdl;e jumper around Schleissheim Which model Storch? The one with the gun position in the rear? Or the Ambulance/VIP versions? Did they (we) repaint the whole airplane or just paint out the German markings and apply U.S. markings? Rick Clark No gun position and the entire plane was repainted and US marked. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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