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KBED hangar rates going up up up up (Massachusetts)
After a 50% t-hangar rate increa$e ~July 2003, followed by a mere 10% increa$e
Feb 2005, Ma$$port i$ once again raising rate$. Thi$ time they are gouging u$ for 20%, with the rate up to $606/month beginning 1 Aug. The J row went from $353/month to $459/month to $505/month to $606/month. If there was any doubt about massport being bugsmasher-hostile... Oh, and they want to add a $100 non-refundable fee to be on the waiting list for a hangar, renewable every two years. cute. real cute. And, yeah, I'm going to dump the t-hangar, saving the 5+ AMU per year. I can get a tie-down for $50/month. Having a hangar is nice, but no way is it worth that much. Bottomline: stay away from KBED. there are plenty of other much friendlier airports in Eastern Massachusetts. -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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KBED hangar rates going up up up up (Massachusetts)
Bob Noel wrote:
Oh, and they want to add a $100 non-refundable fee to be on the waiting list for a hangar, renewable every two years. cute. real cute. One local airport decided to enact a "one month's rent" deposit to be on the waiting list. Of course, they didn't bother to ask those on the waiting list to pay this but rather just kicked everybody off who didn't pay attention and pay (this is despite them calling around during the previous months asking if you still wanted to be on it). Of course one can argue, if there is any waiting list, the hangar rents are too low :-) |
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KBED hangar rates going up up up up (Massachusetts)
Bob Noel wrote:
The J row went from $353/month to $459/month to $505/month to $606/month. That's a tough pill to swallow. You have my condolences. As insurance premiums and waiting lists dictate, I suspect that there will be many other airports here in the US that follow Bedford's lead in the next five years or so. -- Peter |
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KBED hangar rates going up up up up (Massachusetts)
Then move out. Here in south Georgia our T hangars rent for $150 a month
(to be fair we may have to go up $20 a month next year, but they have been $150/month for the last 10 years). Its time for another tea party. Peter R. wrote: Bob Noel wrote: The J row went from $353/month to $459/month to $505/month to $606/month. That's a tough pill to swallow. You have my condolences. As insurance premiums and waiting lists dictate, I suspect that there will be many other airports here in the US that follow Bedford's lead in the next five years or so. |
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KBED hangar rates going up up up up (Massachusetts)
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Ron Natalie wrote: [snip] Of course one can argue, if there is any waiting list, the hangar rents are too low :-) Even though there is no longer any waiting list for a tie-down, ma$$port is also raising tie-down rates. Absolutely no discussion of lowering those rates. (at one time there was a waiting list for tie-downs). So much for the waiting-list-justifies-rate-increases load of BS from massport. -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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KBED hangar rates going up up up up (Massachusetts)
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kontiki wrote: Then move out. I'm going to. Here in south Georgia our T hangars rent for $150 a month (to be fair we may have to go up $20 a month next year, but they have been $150/month for the last 10 years). Maybe Ma$$port should look to see how your airport could afford such "low" rates when Ma$$port is claiming that the t-hangar rates don't pay for t-hangar expenses at KBED. Actually, yeah, I think I'll toss that grenade onto the table at the next tenant meeting. What airport? It'll be fun to watch them squirm and tap-dance. (In the end I know they'll stiff arm me, but what the heck, I'm fed up with ma$$port). -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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KBED hangar rates going up up up up (Massachusetts)
"Peter R." wrote in message ... Bob Noel wrote: The J row went from $353/month to $459/month to $505/month to $606/month. That's a tough pill to swallow. You have my condolences. As insurance premiums and waiting lists dictate, I suspect that there will be many other airports here in the US that follow Bedford's lead in the next five years or so. -- Peter I wouldn't expect a big change in hangar or tie-down costs unless you're based near a population center which is growing extremely rapidly and where there is a substantial amount of discretionary income. In those areas (I live in one - Atlanta), the close-in airports are well into a changeover process where they are intentionally running off spam-cans and rolling out the red carpet for the corporate crowd. I've got no problem with corporate GA, but I do have a problem with FBO's (who are typically a government selected monopoly) consistantly pooping on the little guy - the same guy who's faithfully helped keep them in business for decades. Other than the areas with rapid population growth, hangars and ramp space are relatively plentiful and cheap, 'cause there are fewer and fewer planes and pilots as old pilots get out of the game and aircraft are attritted through accidents, prohibitively expensive repairs, and other causes. I think we're facing a future in "Light GA" where there will be a significant reduction in the number of airfields and FBO's supporting us in the next decade or two. That creates a death spiral of sorts, because the thing that makes GA useful is that almost every little town has an airstrip. When that ends, so does much of the utility, and even more pilots will walk away. |
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KBED hangar rates going up up up up (Massachusetts)
Kyle Boatright wrote:
I wouldn't expect a big change in hangar or tie-down costs unless you're based near a population center which is growing extremely rapidly and where there is a substantial amount of discretionary income. Good point, but I am even thinking of the smaller, class C airports serving the smaller cities of the US. Consider that there are only two FBOs at my home airport of Syrause, NT, and both have two sets of t-hangars and two large, communal hangars. The waiting list for either type of hangar at both of these FBOs is long as well. To me it is just a matter of time before either FBO management raises the hangar fees easily 20-50% and, in doing so, not lose 100% occupancy. After all, they are the only game in our town and there are no comparable airports in the direction of the wealthier suburbs for 50 nm or more. -- Peter |
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KBED hangar rates going up up up up (Massachusetts)
"Peter R." wrote:
Syrause, NT, I have no idea how this slipped by the editor. "Syracuse, NY" -- Peter |
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KBED hangar rates going up up up up (Massachusetts)
Bob Noel wrote:
Don't you wish you could get away with a monopoly like that? I know massport won't allow private hangars on their airport, or even adjacent. Darn shame if you ask me. A little competition is a good thing. |
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