Way off topic, but it has do to with the French

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:23:45 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie
the Bunyip bloviated:

Aratzio wrote in
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:32:19 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie
the Bunyip bloviated:

Aratzio wrote in
:

On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:47:30 -0800, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
mariposas rand mair fheal got double secret
probation for writing:

In article ,
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:4ZKyj.6120$TT4.1637@attbi_s22:

Perhaps your minor in history didn't cover The Great War, the
Napoleonic Wars, or the Seven Year's War.

Look those up and then come back and discuss France's place in
world history.

Wow, that's really impressive. Not.

Try to keep up, please? We weren't talking about France's
"place
in history" -- we're talking about their national behavior in
World War II, their current status as a former world power, and
their current role as the butt of much disparaging humor in
America.

why exactly am i suppose to be disparaging france?
this seems to have started after they said they were not going to
fight in iraq without real evidence that iraq was making nbc weapons

it sounds to me like i supposed to flush two hundred years
of friendship and mutual struggle down the toilet
because they were right about iraq

does that sum it up correctly


Pretty much.

Nothing like having a handy French Fleet to bottle up Cornwallis on
a
penninsula.

How would things have turned out if the French were not on our side
in
the revolution?


We'd probably be speaking English right now if they hadn;t!


Oh wait.

Bertie

The word yer lokin fer is "commonwealth"


As i the imperial power raping the other country?

Sounds better than "chattel" I suppose.


Bertie

Are ya saying the uglies in britain coulda stopped shrub?

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:27:04 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie
the Bunyip bloviated:

Gig 601XL Builder wrote in news:13so54kfvgqqb93
:

wrote:


Perhaps your minor in history didn't cover The Great War, the
Napoleonic Wars, or the Seven Year's War.

Look those up and then come back and discuss France's place in world
history.

My master's in History and I will be waiting.


Dan



Well Rome used to rule the known world. It hasn't translated well into
modern military or even diplomatic power for Italy.


Yes, but they terrific coffee and very reasonably priced high quality
restaurants. Not to mention Alfa Romeos and the ability to look cool even
when riding a motor scooter.

What else could you want?


Bertie

Beer

Aratzio wrote in
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:23:45 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie
the Bunyip bloviated:

Aratzio wrote in
news
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:32:19 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie
the Bunyip bloviated:

Aratzio wrote in
m:

On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:47:30 -0800, in the land of
alt.usenet.kooks,
mariposas rand mair fheal got double secret
probation for writing:

In article ,
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:4ZKyj.6120$TT4.1637@attbi_s22:

Perhaps your minor in history didn't cover The Great War, the
Napoleonic Wars, or the Seven Year's War.

Look those up and then come back and discuss France's place
in
world history.

Wow, that's really impressive. Not.

Try to keep up, please? We weren't talking about France's
"place
in history" -- we're talking about their national behavior in
World War II, their current status as a former world power,
and
their current role as the butt of much disparaging humor in
America.

why exactly am i suppose to be disparaging france?
this seems to have started after they said they were not going to
fight in iraq without real evidence that iraq was making nbc
weapons

it sounds to me like i supposed to flush two hundred years
of friendship and mutual struggle down the toilet
because they were right about iraq

does that sum it up correctly


Pretty much.

Nothing like having a handy French Fleet to bottle up Cornwallis
on
a
penninsula.

How would things have turned out if the French were not on our
side
in
the revolution?


We'd probably be speaking English right now if they hadn;t!


Oh wait.

Bertie

The word yer lokin fer is "commonwealth"


As i the imperial power raping the other country?

Sounds better than "chattel" I suppose.


Bertie

Are ya saying the uglies in britain coulda stopped shrub?


Dunno, If he'd tried to invade Mawr-bay-uh, they'd have had a real fight
on their hands, though.


Bertie

Aratzio wrote in
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:27:04 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie
the Bunyip bloviated:

Gig 601XL Builder wrote in
news:13so54kfvgqqb93 @news.supernews.com:

wrote:


Perhaps your minor in history didn't cover The Great War, the
Napoleonic Wars, or the Seven Year's War.

Look those up and then come back and discuss France's place in
world history.

My master's in History and I will be waiting.


Dan



Well Rome used to rule the known world. It hasn't translated well
into modern military or even diplomatic power for Italy.


Yes, but they terrific coffee and very reasonably priced high quality
restaurants. Not to mention Alfa Romeos and the ability to look cool
even when riding a motor scooter.

What else could you want?


Bertie

Beer


Beer in Italy, not so good..

Bertie

Jay Honeck schrieb:

Are these jokes fair or appropriate? Often not. But the discussion is
about *why* these jokes exist, not whether or not they are legitimate.

maybe because you only have a history of 'bout 500 years and you
personally don't see the fine details in history?

#m

PS: hopefully your kids are different.

On Mar 3, 3:00 pm, Martin Hotze wrote:
Jay Honeck schrieb:

Are these jokes fair or appropriate? Often not. But the discussion is
about *why* these jokes exist, not whether or not they are legitimate.

maybe because you only have a history of 'bout 500 years and you
personally don't see the fine details in history?

#m

PS: hopefully your kids are different.

Well there we go...Americans can't understand history given our short
existence.

Though last time I checked most of us came from places with recorded
histories.

Thank The Creator that we decided to drop the finer points of history
so prevalent in those much more refined and elderly countries -- finer
things such as class, caste, deference, stasis, putrefaction, rum,
sodomy, and the lash.

Dan

Martin Hotze wrote:
Jay Honeck schrieb:

Are these jokes fair or appropriate? Often not. But the discussion
is about *why* these jokes exist, not whether or not they are legitimate.

maybe because you only have a history of 'bout 500 years and you
personally don't see the fine details in history?

Really? The USA just sprung from nothingness a few 100 years ago? This
is the kind of attitude that gets USAians to make jokes about Europeans.

You have no more claim on the long view of history just because your
ancestors didn't have the balls to go exploring or go in search of a
better life.

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:47:03 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie
the Bunyip bloviated:

Aratzio wrote in
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:27:04 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie
the Bunyip bloviated:

Gig 601XL Builder wrote in
news:13so54kfvgqqb93 @news.supernews.com:

wrote:


Perhaps your minor in history didn't cover The Great War, the
Napoleonic Wars, or the Seven Year's War.

Look those up and then come back and discuss France's place in
world history.

My master's in History and I will be waiting.


Dan



Well Rome used to rule the known world. It hasn't translated well
into modern military or even diplomatic power for Italy.


Yes, but they terrific coffee and very reasonably priced high quality
restaurants. Not to mention Alfa Romeos and the ability to look cool
even when riding a motor scooter.

What else could you want?


Bertie

Beer


Beer in Italy, not so good..

Bertie

Wine, however, is superb.

Aratzio wrote in
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:47:03 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie
the Bunyip bloviated:

Aratzio wrote in
m:

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:27:04 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie
the Bunyip bloviated:

Gig 601XL Builder wrote in
news:13so54kfvgqqb93 @news.supernews.com:

wrote:


Perhaps your minor in history didn't cover The Great War, the
Napoleonic Wars, or the Seven Year's War.

Look those up and then come back and discuss France's place in
world history.

My master's in History and I will be waiting.


Dan



Well Rome used to rule the known world. It hasn't translated well
into modern military or even diplomatic power for Italy.


Yes, but they terrific coffee and very reasonably priced high
quality
restaurants. Not to mention Alfa Romeos and the ability to look cool
even when riding a motor scooter.

What else could you want?


Bertie

Beer


Beer in Italy, not so good..

Bertie

Wine, however, is superb.

Yeah, I love Italy. I get there a good bit and never tire of it. Though
the weather around Milan is a bit depressing this time of year.
And talk about history! It's everywhere..


Bertie

On Mar 3, 4:06 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Aratzio wrote :



On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:47:03 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie
the Bunyip bloviated:

Aratzio wrote in
m:

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:27:04 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie
the Bunyip bloviated:

Gig 601XL Builder wrote in
news:13so54kfvgqqb93 @news.supernews.com:

wrote:

Perhaps your minor in history didn't cover The Great War, the
Napoleonic Wars, or the Seven Year's War.

Look those up and then come back and discuss France's place in
world history.

My master's in History and I will be waiting.

Dan

Well Rome used to rule the known world. It hasn't translated well
into modern military or even diplomatic power for Italy.

Yes, but they terrific coffee and very reasonably priced high
quality
restaurants. Not to mention Alfa Romeos and the ability to look cool
even when riding a motor scooter.

What else could you want?

Bertie

Beer

Beer in Italy, not so good..

Bertie

Wine, however, is superb.

Yeah, I love Italy. I get there a good bit and never tire of it. Though
the weather around Milan is a bit depressing this time of year.
And talk about history! It's everywhere..

Bertie

Yes, but do you have a minor in history? If not, hush yersef.