Way off topic, but it has do to with the French

Rich Ahrens wrote in
use.com:

wrote:
On Mar 2, 11:17 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
Perhaps your minor in history didn't cover The Great War, the
Napoleonic Wars, or the Seven Year's War.
Look those up and then come back and discuss France's place in
world history.
Wow, that's really impressive. Not.

Try to keep up, please? We weren't talking about France's "place
in history" -- we're talking about their national behavior in World
War II, their current status as a former world power, and their
current role as the butt of much disparaging humor in America.

But it's well and good that you bring it up, since France's
legitimate history as a great power makes their current status more
pathetic -- not less -- and serves to further explain the reasons
for their being the target for jokesters in the US and elsewhere.

Are these jokes fair or appropriate? Often not. But the discussion
is about *why* these jokes exist, not whether or not they are
legitimate. --
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Question: How do they practice "SAFE SEX" in Iowa?
Answer: They paint a red "X" on the cows that kick.

Q: How do you know when your staying at the Alexis Park Inn?
A: When you call the front desk and say "I've gotta leak in my sink"
and the person at the front desk says "go ahead."


Bwawhahwhahwhhahwhahw!

Bertie

Jim Logajan wrote in
:

Phil J wrote:
On Mar 3, 7:16*pm, " wrote:

"Poison gas" was used extensively during the Great War. One of the
post-war conclusions was that it was more trouble than it was worth
and had only limited tactical value. The environmental conditions
had to be just so, and often the burden placed on friendly troops
reduced their own combat effectiveness.

The reason the Axis was so reluctant to employ such weapons was more
practical than moral -- contrary prevailing winds, and a tactical
emphasis on the offensive made gas unattractive as a battlefield
weapon.

The only great unknown is why the Germans didn't use it in the last
throes of the Reich.


That is a mystery.

Hitler was temporarily blinded by mustard gas in WWI. So that may have
had some influence (excepting the use of gas in concentration camps -
Hitler suggested using poison gas on Jews in Mein Kampf, where he also
recounted his experience in WWI with mustard gas.) In fact Wikipedia
claims a cite in support of the following statement:

"One notable poison gas casualty of the Great War was Adolf Hitler,
who was temporarily blinded. As a result, Hitler adamantly refused to
authorise the use of poison gas on the battlefield during World War
II, for fear of retaliation.[32]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_...in_World_War_I

Trivia: Hitler allegedly originally wore a "Kaiser" style mustache at
the start of WWI but was ordered to clip it to the now-infamous
"Toothbrush" style so it would fit under the respirator masks used
during mustard gas attacks. Reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toothbrush_moustache


Wow. You would wonder how he came upon that style, allright. I suppose I
always just assumed it was fashionable in it's day.


Bertie

On Mar 4, 12:00 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
So the "target of jokesters" supports your conclusion that...?

Sorry.. having a hard time keeping up.

::YAWN::

For a supposedly educated man, you sure have a short attention span.

Oh, well. If you wish to continue this slightly interesting discussion, let
me know. It's a topic of great interest.

Meanwhile, back to flying.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Hunh? What?

Did you say something?

" wrote in
:

On Mar 4, 12:00 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
So the "target of jokesters" supports your conclusion that...?

Sorry.. having a hard time keeping up.

::YAWN::

For a supposedly educated man, you sure have a short attention span.

Oh, well. If you wish to continue this slightly interesting
discussion, let me know. It's a topic of great interest.

Meanwhile, back to flying.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Hunh? What?

Did you say something?


Careful. You'll end up in his "killfile" Bwahahwahwhahwhhahw!


Bertie

On Mar 3, 10:00 pm, Phil J wrote:

I suppose there is always the "desperate times call for desperate
measures" argument. But the kind of horrible, painful death you get
from poison gas just seems to put it into a different category.

True, yet in the Pacific, there seemed to be no concern about horror
-- flamethrowers weren't very nice.

Except for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But as bad as they were, more
Japanese were killed by the incendiary bombs we dropped than by the
atomic bombs.

True, and all the revisionists should remember that.

There were plans being made in the American military to use atomic
bombs to soften up the beaches if it became necessary to invade
Japan. They didn't realize the effects the radiation would have had
on our troops when they came ashore. That would have been a
catastrophe for both sides.

Not by those manufacturing the bombs -- we only had two, and we used
them. The inventory didn't increase until long after the Japanese
surrender.

Surprisingly (to me), the most expensive weapon system America
developed during World War II was not the atomic bomb. It was the
B-29 that dropped it.

Phil

Per unit, or overall? That doesn't seem right -- there were tens of
thousands working at Oak Ridge....

Atomic bombs were dropped on those two Japanese cities, but MAD was
not yet a strategic consideration --- the Japanese couldn't retaliate
in kind.

MAD doctrine evolved as the US and USSR realized the potential within
each arsenal (MAD wasn't formulated as a doctrine until McNamara in
the 60s).

Dan

miguel wrote:
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:12:07 -0500, Daedalus
wrote:

Why weren't the French involved in this conversation?

Jade

Probably because they speak poopytalk.

Pauvre con avec ton langage enfantin. Toi, évidemment, tu ne piges rien
que l'amerloque et, sans doute, t'exprime comme un crétin dans cette
'langue', ainsi tu te sens obligé de montrer à quel point tu es inculte
avec l'utilisation des mots qu'on laisse tomber après la crèche.

C'est un anglais qui te parle, car ici on Europe on considère la culture
d'être une bonne chose.

On Mar 4, 7:52 am, "John of Aix" wrote:

Probably because they speak poopytalk.

Pauvre con avec ton langage enfantin. Toi, évidemment, tu ne piges rien
que l'amerloque et, sans doute, t'exprime comme un crétin dans cette
'langue', ainsi tu te sens obligé de montrer à quel point tu es inculte
avec l'utilisation des mots qu'on laisse tomber après la crèche.

C'est un anglais qui te parle, car ici on Europe on considère la culture
d'être une bonne chose.

Bravo!

On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:37:32 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie
the Bunyip bloviated:

Aratzio wrote in
:



My nephew was stationed at Aviano. My brother and I went over and
spent 2 weeks at the time of the kid's 21st Bday.

I could live around there.


Yeah. i don't know of Aviano. Whart part? I haven;t been in the south much
except for just quick visits, but I'd like to see more of that part.
Sorrento, Sicily and so on.. So many places, so little time..


Bertie


North east, north of Venice and just south of the Alps. We were
staying in the town of Pordenone.

Aratzio wrote in
:

On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:37:32 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie
the Bunyip bloviated:

Aratzio wrote in
m:



My nephew was stationed at Aviano. My brother and I went over and
spent 2 weeks at the time of the kid's 21st Bday.

I could live around there.


Yeah. i don't know of Aviano. Whart part? I haven;t been in the south
much except for just quick visits, but I'd like to see more of that
part. Sorrento, Sicily and so on.. So many places, so little time..


Bertie


North east, north of Venice and just south of the Alps. We were
staying in the town of Pordenone.

Ah, nice. Not so much this time of the year. That damp off the Alps is
chilly1


Bertie

On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:52:19 +0100, "John of Aix"
wrote:

miguel wrote:
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:12:07 -0500, Daedalus
wrote:

Why weren't the French involved in this conversation?

Jade

Probably because they speak poopytalk.

Pauvre con avec ton langage enfantin. Toi, évidemment, tu ne piges rien
que l'amerloque et, sans doute, t'exprime comme un crétin dans cette
'langue', ainsi tu te sens obligé de montrer à quel point tu es inculte
avec l'utilisation des mots qu'on laisse tomber après la crèche.

C'est un anglais qui te parle, car ici on Europe on considère la culture
d'être une bonne chose.

Usenet would be generally improved if all poopytalkers like John of
Aix would Remove Themselves Altogether.