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Claus-Dieter Zink takes measures against Lowlands Cup team
Why did he have to employ a lawyer before trying to communicate, even though the two parties don't share a common language, there's enough Germans with fluent English that could have helped out. You don't understand the Dutch. You simply can not get a job selling train tickets unless you are fluent in English, German, and French. I'm serious. Although I have never met them, I assure you that the group is able to communicate with CDZ in his native German. Tony V. |
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Has any of you asked Claus-Dieter Zink for his view on the matter?
Hi,
I don't know the exact background apart from what was published here and on segelflug.de, but I wonder whether any of you has actually heard the whole story from CDZ's point of view. This whole campaign against him might not be entirely justified for all we know, and it could cause him a lot of damage. For anyone who's interested (and speaks German), here's a posting he obviously asked the webmaster of segelflug.de to publish in the segelflug.de gliding forum: http://www.segelflug.de/wwwboard/index.html Go to: Segelflug - Streitthemen, Gegendarstellung C.D.Zink Claudia |
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Has any of you asked Claus-Dieter Zink for his view on the matter?
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:20:09 UTC, Claudia Buengen
wrote: : I don't know the exact background apart from what was published here and : on segelflug.de, but I wonder whether any of you has actually heard the : whole story from CDZ's point of view. I have read several pieces by him and his lawyer. Their reaction would seem to be to be entirely understandable ... if someone had used his images without permission on a calendar or other commercial product. For a brief usage of small images on a non-commercial website whose organisers actively sought his permission it seems sadly ill-judged to me. That's a shame - this does seem like a very, very trivial matter to get so terribly upset about. My sympathies on the affairs in question are wholly with the LLC people - but I'm quite sorry for Herr Zink, too. I'd hate to be as unhappy as he seems to be. Ian -- |
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Has any of you asked Claus-Dieter Zink for his view on the matter?
I don't know the exact background apart from what was published here and on segelflug.de, but I wonder whether any of you has actually heard the whole story from CDZ's point of view. You can read it all he http://lowlands.sytes.net/cdzfiles.asp This page includes all correspondence, unaltered, including Mr Zinks and Mr Kreimers POV, so unless you want think I forged them and would risk a suit for libel, it should give anyone the opportunity to make up his own mind. This whole campaign against him might not be entirely justified for all we know, and it could cause him a lot of damage. Just for the record; LLC never set up a "campaign" against Mr Zink. We simply published what was going on, by giving the bare facts, and requested assistance. Mr Zink is now complaining about receiving threads and insults, but I dare anyone to point out where exactly we asked to do that. The opposite is true, we've asked people to refrain from such actions, as we do not condone them. And indeed, this issue might cause some considerable damage to his business and/or reputation, but it was Mr Zinks choice, not ours, not to negotiate with us and instead immediately take legal steps. We've kept this quiet for as long as we could, but when 3 young german volounteers (one of them even underage), that bare no responsability in this matter whatsoever, where facing trial, with no possibility to even negotiate a resonable settlement, I no longer had a choice but go public. Again, anyone is free to make up their own mind on this; possibly we did do something illegal, but wether that warrants the actions by Mr Zink or not, is up to you do decide. To what extent using these images the way we did, caused any damage to Mr Zinks business, is up to a court to decide. For anyone who's interested (and speaks German), here's a posting he obviously asked the webmaster of segelflug.de to publish in the segelflug.de gliding forum: http://www.segelflug.de/wwwboard/index.html Go to: Segelflug - Streitthemen, Gegendarstellung C.D.Zink I saw those threads. To bad they are locked, as some of them contain some huge misunderstandings. For instance, it is claimed there LLC would be a commercial organization, which is of course, ridiculous. |
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Claus-Dieter Zink takes measures against Lowlands Cup team
I explained the situation in detail to him - in German - and he
actually agreed that probably this conflict could have been avoided if Vertigos first mails would have been in German. Since he does not speak English, he throws away all non-German mails as spam. =:-o If this is true, you should forward this message to the LLC guys. That puts CDZ's whole case into the dustbin. Already done. Actually with written permission by CDZ himself... |
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Claus-Dieter Zink takes measures against Lowlands Cup team
I have posted a comment on his visitors board and have received a mail
direct from CDZ in reply. I suggest everyone who cares about this does likewise. Eventually he might just get the idea. Ian |
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Has any of you asked Claus-Dieter Zink for his view on the matter?
Claudia Buengen wrote:
...I wonder whether any of you has actually heard the whole story from CDZ's point of view. Sorry, I don't have time for German language web sites. Perhaps you would like to translate -- or are you worried that Herr Zink might claim that you would have damaged his copyright? Jack |
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Claus-Dieter Zink takes measures against Lowlands Cup team
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