50% of NAZI oil was supplied from US

Stuart Wilkes wrote:

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Don't forget to tell us about all the raw materials Uncle Joe sent to Nazi
Germany.

As well as the raw materials the US sent to Japan.

Stuart Wilkes

Did the US have a pact with Japan, similar to the Stalin Hitler,
Molotov Ribbentrop pact to divide Europe between them?

From: "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj"
Date: 10/22/2003 1:48 PM Central Daylight Time
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Stuart Wilkes wrote:

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Don't forget to tell us about all the raw materials Uncle Joe sent to Nazi
Germany.

As well as the raw materials the US sent to Japan.

Stuart Wilkes

Did the US have a pact with Japan, similar to the Stalin Hitler,
Molotov Ribbentrop pact to divide Europe between them?


The U.S. cut off raw material shipments to Japan as a result Japan's
misbehaviour in China. The Japanese rationale for attacking the U.S. was to
ensure they could take the Dutch oil fields, the Philipines etc uninterrupted
for control of their resources. Estimates were Japan had about 6 months before
running out of strategic resources at the time of Pearl Harbour.

My personal opinion is the Pearl Harbour attacks were a waste of time since
Japan could have expanded into the areas without much more than a yell or two
from the U.S..

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

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(B2431) wrote:

From: "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj"
Date: 10/22/2003 1:48 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

Stuart Wilkes wrote:

The U.S. cut off raw material shipments to Japan as a result Japan's
misbehaviour in China. The Japanese rationale for attacking the U.S. was to
ensure they could take the Dutch oil fields, the Philipines etc uninterrupted
for control of their resources. Estimates were Japan had about 6 months before
running out of strategic resources at the time of Pearl Harbour.

My personal opinion is the Pearl Harbour attacks were a waste of time since
Japan could have expanded into the areas without much more than a yell or two
from the U.S..

Japan didn't think so, largely because raw materials that they needed to
continue expanding into Asia had been embargoed by the U.S. On top of
that, neither the Brits nor the Dutch were likely to stand aside and let
Japan take over the Dutch East Indies oil fields.

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From: "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj"
Date: 10/22/2003 1:48 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

Did the US have a pact with Japan, similar to the Stalin Hitler,
Molotov Ribbentrop pact to divide Europe between them?


The U.S. cut off raw material shipments to Japan as a result Japan's
misbehaviour in China. The Japanese rationale for attacking the U.S.
was to ensure they could take the Dutch oil fields, the Philipines etc
uninterrupted for control of their resources. Estimates were Japan had
about 6 months before running out of strategic resources at the time
of Pearl Harbour.

My personal opinion is the Pearl Harbour attacks were a waste of time
since Japan could have expanded into the areas without much more than
a yell or two from the U.S..

While they might not have had much trouble with attacing the Dutch, I have
a feeling that the invasion of the Philipines, which were a US territory,
controled by the US army, with waters patroled by the USN, (etc...), would
have caused some kind of negative reaction in the US. I find it very hard
to believe that the US government would view an attack on the Philipines
any anything other than an act of war.

Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj wrote:
Stuart Wilkes wrote:

"Snuffy Smith" wrote in message
et...

Don't forget to tell us about all the raw materials Uncle Joe sent
to Nazi Germany.

As well as the raw materials the US sent to Japan.

Stuart Wilkes

Did the US have a pact with Japan, similar to the Stalin Hitler,
Molotov Ribbentrop pact to divide Europe between them?

Uh, no.


--
Nik Simpson

Subject: 50% of NAZI oil was supplied from US
From: "Nik Simpson"
Date: 10/22/03 1:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time

As well as the raw materials the US sent to Japan.

Stuart Wilkes

The 3rd Ave EL was sold to Japan as scrap metal.We got it all back from the air
at Pearl. No charge,

Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" wrote in message ...
Stuart Wilkes wrote:

"Snuffy Smith" wrote in message et...

Don't forget to tell us about all the raw materials Uncle Joe sent to Nazi
Germany.

As well as the raw materials the US sent to Japan.

Stuart Wilkes

Did the US have a pact with Japan, similar to the Stalin Hitler,
Molotov Ribbentrop pact to divide Europe between them?

No. The US government had no particular interest in dividing Mongolia
and Siberia with Japan. Mongolia and Siberia are not particularly
feasable routes if a Japanese government has the intention of
attacking the US. And the Japanese attacks on the Soviets and
Mongolia drew no adverse reaction from the US.

Stuart Wilkes

Stuart Wilkes wrote:

"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" wrote in message ...

Stuart Wilkes wrote:


"Snuffy Smith" wrote in message et...


Don't forget to tell us about all the raw materials Uncle Joe sent to Nazi
Germany.

As well as the raw materials the US sent to Japan.

Stuart Wilkes


Did the US have a pact with Japan, similar to the Stalin Hitler,
Molotov Ribbentrop pact to divide Europe between them?


No. The US government had no particular interest in dividing Mongolia
and Siberia with Japan. Mongolia and Siberia are not particularly
feasable routes if a Japanese government has the intention of
attacking the US. And the Japanese attacks on the Soviets and
Mongolia drew no adverse reaction from the US.

Stuart Wilkes

Regarding your assertion equating pre 1941 US Japan trade with
soviet assistance to Hitlers reich.
Wasn't there an embargo placed on shipments of steel between
the two countries, as well as access to oil?
How does this support your implications?
--
Rostyk

The article discuss the oil balance of NAZI Germany in 37 - june 44.
The funny side is that some 50% of oil and petrolium products
were supplied by US based companies (the standard oil of New Jersey,
the standard oil of California and the Davis oil company) mainly via
Spain. This includes 100% of oil supply for NAZI subs operating in
Atlantic. All these operations were authorised by US government.

Michael
very smart move on the us part as when we cut the oil off they lost

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:57:57 GMT, "eravanna"
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The article discuss the oil balance of NAZI Germany in 37 - june 44.
The funny side is that some 50% of oil and petrolium products
were supplied by US based companies (the standard oil of New Jersey,
the standard oil of California and the Davis oil company) mainly via
Spain. This includes 100% of oil supply for NAZI subs operating in
Atlantic. All these operations were authorised by US government.

Michael
very smart move on the us part as when we cut the oil off they lost


It's also pure, unadulterated bull****.