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John Clonts wrote:
Side question, I have tried filing via Duats a flight plan beginning at a navaid, and it won't let me because it tries to convert it to an airport (e.g. XYZ Vor yields "Airport KXYZ does not exist"). Do you know of some way around this? Maybe it's the web front-end or whatever you are using to access DUAT. I just tried using the telnet connection (telnet direct.duats.com) and successfully entered a flight plan starting from HNN, which is a navaid, but there is no airport with that identifier. Don't try to make sense of the routing, time, etc., I just made up stuff to fill in all the fields: 1 Type of flight plan: IFR 2 Aircraft tail number: N1701D 3 Acft type/special equip: M20P/A 4 True airspeed: 150 5 Departure point: HNN 6 Departure time: (UTC) Thu May 20 20:00 7 Altitude: 60 8 Route of flight: RDU 9 Destination: RDU 10 Estimated time enroute: 0300 11 Remarks: 12 Fuel on board: 0500 13 Alternate destination(s): 14 Pilot's name: DAVID G BUTLER Address: snip Phone no.: snip Aircraft home base: RDU 15 Number aboard: 1 16 Color of aircraft: TAN/BROWN 17 Dest contact name: Phone no.: Of course, I quit before actually -filing- the bogus plan. Remove SHIRT to reply directly. Dave |
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Stimbo wrote: I like the COMPOSITE flight plan idea. I had sorta forgotten about it. I need to read more about it. Is this easy to implement/activate? Piece of cake. |
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John Clonts wrote:
Side question, I have tried filing via Duats a flight plan beginning at a navaid, and it won't let me because it tries to convert it to an airport (e.g. XYZ Vor yields "Airport KXYZ does not exist"). Do you know of some way around this? Why would you do this? If you are on the ground, you'd file a composite plan. If you are in the air, you presumably would use a radio to file. Is it a bogus plan? |
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"Dave Butler" wrote in message ... John Clonts wrote: Side question, I have tried filing via Duats a flight plan beginning at a navaid, and it won't let me because it tries to convert it to an airport (e.g. XYZ Vor yields "Airport KXYZ does not exist"). Do you know of some way around this? Maybe it's the web front-end or whatever you are using to access DUAT. I just tried using the telnet connection (telnet direct.duats.com) and successfully entered a flight plan starting from HNN, which is a navaid, but there is no airport with that identifier. Don't try to make sense of the routing, time, etc., I just made up stuff to fill in all the fields: [Snip] I think you're right. In fact the www.duats.com front end will accept the flight plan FILING with navaid endpoints. It's just the "Flight Planner" portion that requires airport endpoints. Which makes some sense. Thanks, John Clonts Temple, Texas N7NZ |
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The first step is to use flight following, which puts you in contact with
ATC right off the bat. not always possible if ATC is busy with IFR traffic, or the approach/ departure person is not in the mood. Here in the East we get unable many times. |
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"Maule Driver" wrote in message . com... John Clonts wrote: Side question, I have tried filing via Duats a flight plan beginning at a navaid, and it won't let me because it tries to convert it to an airport (e.g. XYZ Vor yields "Airport KXYZ does not exist"). Do you know of some way around this? Why would you do this? If you are on the ground, you'd file a composite plan. If you are in the air, you presumably would use a radio to file. The reason I would want to do this is for the same reason you would want a composite plan, except that I don't want the interaction with FSS for the VFR portion (for whatever reason). But anyway, how exactly do you file a composite plan via duats? What do you put into each field? The AIM says to check both IFR and VFR, but the duats web front end uses a single-select box. Does telnet duats allow you to check both? And where do you indicate which portion of the flight is which? Freeform in the route box, or all in the remarks section? What exactly do you put into the departure and destination boxes? Thanks, John Clonts Temple, Texas N7NZ |
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Nathan Young wrote in message . ..
When filing en route, what do you use as the departure airport? I don't use a departure airport. I use some convenient point I will shortly cross or pass near. It can be a VOR, an NDB, an intersection, degree-distance from a VOR, an airport. The requirement is 1) to have something the computer will accept 2) to have something ATC can identify I always give the actual departure airport even though I left there some time ago. I would strongly recommend you DON'T do this. The reason is, if you have passed into airspace controlled by another ATC facility, they will not have your flightplan. The ATC computer will have sent it to the ATC facility controlling the airspace around your departure airport and there it will sit. In order to find your flightplan, ATC will have to figure out where your departure airport is, who controls that airspace, call 'em up, and say "depart that guy". All problems you can avoid by simply filing from a point near your actual geographic location at the time you file. Cheers, Sydney |
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