Std Cirrus: Blue or Gray trim color ONLY!...why?

On my last annual, the IA showed me the AD's and a special note for
Standard Cirrus gliders that they can only have "light gray or blue
trim colors only." huh???

My contest ID is "medium gray" and I was told he would "let it slide
this year".......OK!!! Whatever!!

He wasn't making it up, he showed me the printout. The IA was just as
surprised as I was. Anyone know why this is?

Scott Alexander
Standard Cirrus #118

On Sep 5, 6:24*am, Scott Alexander
wrote:
On my last annual, the IA showed me the AD's and a special note for
Standard Cirrus gliders that they can only have "light gray or blue
trim colors only." *huh???

My contest ID is "medium gray" and I was told he would "let it slide
this year".......OK!!! Whatever!!

He wasn't making it up, he showed me the printout. *The IA was just as
surprised as I was. *Anyone know why this is?

Scott Alexander
Standard Cirrus #118

i believe it is to prevent hot spots. i think the Std Libelle and
perhaps other early glass ships have similar limitations.

After the multiple mid-airs we have had this year, I am wanting to add
some high-vis trim colors on the nose, wingtips and rudder. How would
I go about getting approval for a high visibility color that isn't
blue or gray? Or maybe there's a high visibility blue out there I can
use.

"Scott Alexander" wrote in message ...
After the multiple mid-airs we have had this year, I am wanting to add
some high-vis trim colors on the nose, wingtips and rudder. How would
I go about getting approval for a high visibility color that isn't
blue or gray? Or maybe there's a high visibility blue out there I can
use.

Scott,

If you are a member of the SSA you might want to read John Greene's article in the Sept 1975 issue of Soaring.
(http://www.ssa.org/magazine/archive/...onth=9&page=03)
The article is on PDF page 24 & 25.

I am sure similar tests are what lead up to the creation of the AD.

Wayne
HP-14 "6F"
(Which can be painted any color; however I have chosen white.)

Look at the Schempp website, Tech notes and downloads, standard
cirrus, TM 278-4.
Jim

On Sep 5, 5:31*am, Scott Alexander
wrote:
After the multiple mid-airs we have had this year, I am wanting to add
some high-vis trim colors on the nose, wingtips and rudder. *How would
I go about getting approval for a high visibility color that isn't
blue or gray? *Or maybe there's a high visibility blue out there I can
use.

"Scott Alexander" wrote in message ...
After the multiple mid-airs we have had this year, I am wanting to add
some high-vis trim colors on the nose, wingtips and rudder. How would
I go about getting approval for a high visibility color that isn't
blue or gray? Or maybe there's a high visibility blue out there I can
use.

Scott,

If you are a member of the SSA you might want to read John Greene's article in the Sept 1975 issue of Soaring.
(http://www.ssa.org/magazine/archive/...onth=9&page=03)
The article is on PDF page 24 & 25.

I am sure similar tests are what lead up to the creation of the AD.

Wayne
HP-14 "6F"
(Which can be painted any color; however I have chosen white.)

On 9/5/2010 7:24 AM, Scott Alexander wrote:
On my last annual, the IA showed me the AD's and a special note for
Standard Cirrus gliders that they can only have "light gray or blue
trim colors only." huh???

Is it just light blue and gray to which you are limited?
The US type certificate G23EU for the "STANDARD CIRRUS" includes other
light colors.
NOTE 3. All external portions of the glider exposed to sunlight must
be painted white. Registration and Competition
numbers must be painted blue-gray or in any other light colors.
This note's exact same verbiage is also found on other fiberglass makes
and models from the late 60's through 1980.
Is there a change to the STD CIRRUS TCDS someplace requiring "only" the
blue-gray or are you working from his interpretation of what a light
color should be? The last revision for the TCDS was June 3,1976.

G23EU:
http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/52ab636a446c519686256e5f00477449/$FILE/G23eu.PDF


Russ

Scott,

First you declare a task with your contest ID instead of your registration
number and now you have medium gray trim instead of light grey. What's
next? No respect for the rules. What are you some sort of troble maker?

JD

Read the TCDS for the Cirrus.

Your IA is correct.

And you cannot get around this by going Experimental E&R...

Haven't test by the military shown that anything other than all white
less visable?

Boggs

On Sep 5, 5:31*am, Scott Alexander
wrote:
After the multiple mid-airs we have had this year, I am wanting to add
some high-vis trim colors on the nose, wingtips and rudder. *How would
I go about getting approval for a high visibility color that isn't
blue or gray? *Or maybe there's a high visibility blue out there I can
use.