Bad Aviation Films

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 11:37:01 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
Since we've had favorites, how about bad ones?

Someone mentioned Top Gun.Â* I thought that was horrible.Â* Yeah, there
was eye candy for both of the only two real genders, and there were a
bunch of great shots of aircraft, but the story line was total crap.

So for one of my favorite bad aviation films, I nominate:Â* Jet Pilot
with John Wayne, Janet Leigh, and believe it or not, Mamie Van Doren.

Dan, 5J

Do any of these films include Jane Fonda, they should. Bob

I remember a John Wayne movie in which a fight develops between the Captain and CoPilot in flight. The FAA used to use it as an example of 'failure of Crew Resource Management'.

Classic - The High and the Mighty - John Wayne and Robert Stack.

https://youtu.be/ds76VOSkm5g

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 15:20:29 -0700, Paul Agnew wrote:

Classic - The High and the Mighty - John Wayne and Robert Stack.

https://youtu.be/ds76VOSkm5g

That is an excellent book. Read it again recently - still good.


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On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 22:30:30 +0000, Martin Gregorie wrote:

Off on a slight tangent one flying book at really like to see filmed is
Ken Deighton's "Bomber". Its a rivetting read and made a *great* radio
play a few years back. The book tells the fictional story of a WW2 raid
on Germany that went wrong, starting on the morning before the raid and
ending as the bombers landed, with a final follow-up of what happened to
the main surviving characters after the War. The raid is covered from
both sides throughout .

Radio 4 broadcast it as several segments, each section broadcast at about
the time of day when it would have happened.

On this side of the pond "Bomber" is regarded as one of the best WW2
flying books to be written.

I'd certainly put it alongside "Winged Victory" by VW Yeates - thats one
of the few WW1 flying novels that RAF aircrew would read, probably
because Yeates was a Camel pilot on the Western Front, so had lived what
he wrote about. However, you guys might prefer "Goodbye Mickey Mouse" to
"Bomber", of only because its a story about a bomber escort squadron
flying P-51s. I bet it would film well, too.


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Everything from Deighton is outstanding

I enjoyed the book "Goodbye, Mickey Mouse". Filming it sounds expensive.

I've been re-reading Ernest K. Gann recently. Great stuff.

Chip Bearden
JB

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 10:37:01 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
Since we've had favorites, how about bad ones?

Someone mentioned Top Gun.Â* I thought that was horrible.Â* Yeah, there
was eye candy for both of the only two real genders, and there were a
bunch of great shots of aircraft, but the story line was total crap.


Dan, 5J

Top Gun - The opening sequence on the carrier is great. After that it gets silly like when Maverick goes inverted with the MIG separated by, what, 2 feet? Maybe the rudders happen to mesh REALLY well.

Technically the part that seems false is during the combat at Miramar where the swing wings on the F-14's keep going in and out and back in again in rapid succession one shot after another. Is that possible.

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 8:37:01 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
Since we've had favorites, how about bad ones?

Someone mentioned Top Gun.Â* I thought that was horrible.Â* Yeah, there
was eye candy for both of the only two real genders, and there were a
bunch of great shots of aircraft, but the story line was total crap.

So for one of my favorite bad aviation films, I nominate:Â* Jet Pilot
with John Wayne, Janet Leigh, and believe it or not, Mamie Van Doren.

Dan, 5J

Pearl Harbor. Just terrible movie. Believe it or not even a terrible plot!

I believe the F-14's wings position automatically for the flight
conditions.Â* I have no idea how quickly that happens.

On 4/19/2020 6:13 PM, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net wrote:
On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 10:37:01 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
Since we've had favorites, how about bad ones?

Someone mentioned Top Gun.Â* I thought that was horrible.Â* Yeah, there
was eye candy for both of the only two real genders, and there were a
bunch of great shots of aircraft, but the story line was total crap.


Dan, 5J
Top Gun - The opening sequence on the carrier is great. After that it gets silly like when Maverick goes inverted with the MIG separated by, what, 2 feet? Maybe the rudders happen to mesh REALLY well.

Technically the part that seems false is during the combat at Miramar where the swing wings on the F-14's keep going in and out and back in again in rapid succession one shot after another. Is that possible.

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Dan, 5J