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  #11  
Old June 8th 04, 04:12 PM
NW_PILOT
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what if they took a shot and missed what goes up must come down ware is all
that explosive going to go over a populated area how about the shrapnel from
the poor Cessna that get blow to smithereens. but you know all them people
taking them pansy pills probably think it would be fireworks until shrapnel
started killing people. I could see the headline

National Guard Shoots Down Cessna Killing 60 People It Could Have Been Worse

Photo Of Propeller In the Top of a Car

11:00 News :

Engine Cylinder Falls Though Roof Critically Injuring Elderly Person While
Sleeping Was It Terrorism

This Just In It appears that it will be 61 dead as the QB from Oregon State
dies from a pushrod through the heart

Or

National Guard missile go's astray killing 300 at football game.




"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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lol can you imagine the public backlash if an f15 blasted someone's c150

out
of the sky.


Yes. I can imagine the newsgroups full of posts complaining about that

idiot
pilot and the harm he did to general aviation. I can see the

administration
feeding the press the story that this was a huge threat and pumping up

what
terrorist damage a small airplane can do, and that there was no time to
consider alternatives (like the cops who shoot somebody who brandishes a

toy
gun). I can see this as JUSTIFYING huge TFRs around events, with multple

rings
and multple escalations of force for intrusions.

I hope it doesn't come to that, and there is a good chance that it

wouldn't.
However, I would not bet on it.

Jose

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Old June 8th 04, 05:40 PM
G.R. Patterson III
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Vigo wrote:

lol can you imagine the public backlash if an f15 blasted someone's c150 out
of the sky. I think this is an election year for you guys, so have no fear I
can't see them shooting anyone down.


They wouldn't have to shoot it down. Just fly about 100' under it at, say, 400 knots,
hit the burners and head straight up. If the guy doesn't have a heart attack, and if
the wake turbulence doesn't turn the 150 into a collection of parts flying a loose
formation, I'd bet junior birdman there would be willing to do absolutely anything
that fighter pilot wants him to do.

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.
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Old June 8th 04, 05:42 PM
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Teacherjh wrote:

Yes. I can imagine the newsgroups full of posts complaining about that idiot
pilot and the harm he did to general aviation. I can see the administration
feeding the press the story that this was a huge threat and pumping up what
terrorist damage a small airplane can do, and that there was no time to
consider alternatives (like the cops who shoot somebody who brandishes a toy
gun). I can see this as JUSTIFYING huge TFRs around events, with multple rings
and multple escalations of force for intrusions.


I think you're exactly correct. In fact, I'd bet there are people in the TSA who are
drooling over the opportunity to do exactly that.

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.
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Old June 8th 04, 05:44 PM
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NW_PILOT wrote:

what if they took a shot and missed what goes up must come down ware is all
that explosive going to go over a populated area how about the shrapnel from
the poor Cessna that get blow to smithereens. but you know all them people
taking them pansy pills probably think it would be fireworks until shrapnel
started killing people. I could see the headline

National Guard Shoots Down Cessna Killing 60 People It Could Have Been Worse

Photo Of Propeller In the Top of a Car

11:00 News :

Engine Cylinder Falls Though Roof Critically Injuring Elderly Person While
Sleeping Was It Terrorism

This Just In It appears that it will be 61 dead as the QB from Oregon State
dies from a pushrod through the heart

Or

National Guard missile go's astray killing 300 at football game.


And every one of those events would be used as justification to scrap light aircraft.
Obviously we can't be trusted to use them responsibly.

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.
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Old June 8th 04, 07:09 PM
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Malcolm Teas wrote:

Stop the little bitty planes that never hurt anyone...


Yeah? Does Tampa ring a bell???

Oh, wait a minute... How many people were hurt there?

On second thought, maybe it's just that the TSA is staffed with some of
those STN folks.

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Old June 8th 04, 07:25 PM
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John T wrote:

Malcolm Teas wrote:

Stop the little bitty planes that never hurt anyone...


Yeah? Does Tampa ring a bell???

Oh, wait a minute... How many people were hurt there?


But think of the glass! Nobody ever stops to consider the damage to
windows!! What's with this country today!?!?

- Andrew

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Old June 8th 04, 08:01 PM
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lol no doubt I like that one.
"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Vigo wrote:

lol can you imagine the public backlash if an f15 blasted someone's c150

out
of the sky. I think this is an election year for you guys, so have no

fear I
can't see them shooting anyone down.


They wouldn't have to shoot it down. Just fly about 100' under it at, say,

400 knots,
hit the burners and head straight up. If the guy doesn't have a heart

attack, and if
the wake turbulence doesn't turn the 150 into a collection of parts flying

a loose
formation, I'd bet junior birdman there would be willing to do absolutely

anything
that fighter pilot wants him to do.

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.



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Old June 8th 04, 08:09 PM
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"Teacherjh" wrote in message

Yes. I can imagine the newsgroups full of posts complaining about that

idiot
pilot and the harm he did to general aviation.


Didn't some kid in Florida fly a Cessna into a building awhile back?
That passed and the media flavor was more one of "what a dumbass."

-c


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Old June 8th 04, 08:14 PM
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"NW_PILOT" wrote in message news:M8GdnfCL0cmwGVjdRVn-

Hey gatt ever been at the end of runway 28L at PDX near the embassy suites
when a flock or fighters takes off using runway 10R? Talk about going def
every time I see them go I never have my camcorder with me one of these

days
ill get video of it.


Aw, yeah! A friend had a sailboat at the end of Tomahawk Island and had a
great view and earsplitting wakeup call when they departed to the west, but
they didn't depart that direction any time I was out there with video so I
missed it.

There were a pair of EA6Bs about a week or two ago, must have been down from
Washington.

-c


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Old June 8th 04, 08:23 PM
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"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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It would not take long for the fighter's to get there from PDX


Yes, but we are talking about what peopl would say, not what is or is not

true.

Well, guys, during the filming of "The Hunted" the filming crew staged a
battle scene next to the Willamette, near the shipyards, and didn't bother
to tell the appropriate people that there would be explosions. Meanwhile,
some guy with a fabric experimental joked with a fueler in Scappoose several
hours earlier that he was going to go fly into a building. (A joke, like
attacking somebody with the Wright Flyer) and, an hour or so after the last
possible moment of endurance for that airplane, the fueler called the
authorities and fighters were scrambled.

The next day, folks in Portland were howling about fighter planes hotrodding
at low altitude up the Willamette. Turns out they were scrambled to chase
down an ultralight. :

-c


 




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