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Elite simulation software
I have FS2004 but for some reason I think the physics are a bit off... I
don't know if FS2004 cuts it as far as realism goes. so I started looking around for other simulators and I found the Elite Simulation software. Anyone uses the Elite ? How realistic is it and how useful could it be as and extra help in training for a private pilot license (C172 specifically)? Thanks! -- Marco Rispoli - NJ, USA You can read my flight training diary at http://www.tranceweb.net |
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It's somewhat expensive, but it looks like good quality. They have a demo
that you can download for free and try it yourself. "Marco Rispoli" wrote in message ... I have FS2004 but for some reason I think the physics are a bit off... I don't know if FS2004 cuts it as far as realism goes. so I started looking around for other simulators and I found the Elite Simulation software. Anyone uses the Elite ? How realistic is it and how useful could it be as and extra help in training for a private pilot license (C172 specifically)? Thanks! -- Marco Rispoli - NJ, USA You can read my flight training diary at http://www.tranceweb.net |
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I honestly do not think that any sim however accurate, will help with
initial private pilot training. The whole experience is about the feel in the air, the ability to look all around you and to feel terrified when you accidentally go in to cloud or hit an expected bit of turbulence. I am certain that too much simming will extend your training time not shorten it. When you have qualified, the sim can be a great help in practising instrument flying and for relaxing. If you are NEVER going to fly for real then the sim is marvellous. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.520 / Virus Database: 318 - Release Date: 18/09/2003 |
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Marco,
The flight school that I went to used the Elite system software in there simulator. I used it a couple of times with my flight instructor to learn basic VOR navigation. Its a good system for practicing things like VOR navigation and IFR procedures, but it doesn't really help in teaching a student 'stick and rudder' flying. I think that would take a full-motion simulator costing hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of dollars. My personal opinion is that it is a software and hardware package that is too expensive for the average flight simmer, and too expensive for the average student pilot. About the only ones that can afford the full Elite package would be a flight school with fairly deep pockets. Randy L. -- "Americans are despised for reasons that have less to do with who we are and what we have, and more to do with the dictatorial political and religious leaders who seek to shift attention away from the misery they impose on the people they control and toward the United States and others that are guilty of no more than succeeding where they have failed. " -Cal Thomas "Marco Rispoli" wrote in message ... I have FS2004 but for some reason I think the physics are a bit off... I don't know if FS2004 cuts it as far as realism goes. so I started looking around for other simulators and I found the Elite Simulation software. Anyone uses the Elite ? How realistic is it and how useful could it be as and extra help in training for a private pilot license (C172 specifically)? Thanks! -- Marco Rispoli - NJ, USA You can read my flight training diary at http://www.tranceweb.net |
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I've had Elite for years and consider it the best money I've spent in
aviation. But its value is in keeping instrument flying skills sharp or in teaching those skills. Its value for a primary flight student is doubtful. As much as it pains me to say it, MSFS is good enough to teach you the radio navigation necessary for private pilots. They way I would suggest you experiment with radio navigation is to put the flight sim aircraft on autopilot and then adjust the heading bug to practice "bracketing", tracking (with and without wind), and orientation and intercepts of bearings and radials. One bad habit many student pilots have is excessive concentration on the instrument panel. Private pilot training is about developing the hand-eye coordination necessary for visual flying. Having said that, I find instrument flying much more satisfying than "boring holes in the sky". The flight model of Elite is eerily accurate to the Cessna 172s I've flown. Elite seems to be about 100 RPM more powerful than most of the rental aircraft I've flown, but this is well within the variation between rental aircraft. In all the years I've use Elite, I'm not sure the program has "crashed", although I certainly have crashed the "airplane" while doing extreme maneuvers such as inverted ILS approaches. I never find myself making excuses for Elite. Something that was common when I was flying the game type sims. -- Scott -------- "Interestingly, we started to lose this war only after the embedded reporters pulled out. Back when we got the news directly from Iraq, there was victory and optimism. Now that the news is filtered through the mainstream media here in America, all we hear is death and destruction and quagmire..." Ann Coulter http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2003/091703.htm Marco Rispoli wrote in message ... I have FS2004 but for some reason I think the physics are a bit off... I don't know if FS2004 cuts it as far as realism goes. so I started looking around for other simulators and I found the Elite Simulation software. Anyone uses the Elite ? How realistic is it and how useful could it be as and extra help in training for a private pilot license (C172 specifically)? Thanks! -- Marco Rispoli - NJ, USA You can read my flight training diary at http://www.tranceweb.net |
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Marco,
I regularly use MSFS and ELITE. I prefer MSFS for "cruising around", getting to "know" an area I might be flying to IRL, but for practicing IFR approaches, I use ELITE. I agree with others on this thread that the ELITE flight model seems to be more realistic (at least, it's much more smooth and doesn't OVERREACT to control input as does my MSFS). That just makes any attempt at "precision" flying much more pleasant (and realistic, since real SE airplanes aren't as squirrely and hard to control as the MSFS models). The visuals (e.g., "as real as it gets") in MSFS are FAR superior though, and I sometimes like to cycle the views to get an added perspective that I can't get in real life (e.g., the spot plane) or in ELITE. I grabbed the ELITE product when they smartly lowered the price for "students" for just the Cessna C-172 models (I think I paid $200). I figure I've recovered that money back after about 8 hours of use, since my FBO charges $25/hr. for the same sim (their controllers are better though and they're certified PCATD which I'm not, but that's OK with me...) Happy Landings! "Marco Rispoli" wrote in message ... I have FS2004 but for some reason I think the physics are a bit off... I don't know if FS2004 cuts it as far as realism goes. so I started looking around for other simulators and I found the Elite Simulation software. Anyone uses the Elite ? How realistic is it and how useful could it be as and extra help in training for a private pilot license (C172 specifically)? Thanks! -- Marco Rispoli - NJ, USA You can read my flight training diary at http://www.tranceweb.net |
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