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Old March 16th 07, 04:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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I received the following from a friend:

Here is a funny episode with a JFK ground controller and numerous
aircraft taxiing on the ground. Ground control at busy airports
like JFK is the busiest and most complex position in the tower.
There can be a hundred different taxi ways and most of them are
crossing runways or very close to it. One wrong turn by an
aircraft can lead to disaster or just a nightmare like this sound
clip: http://home.online.no/~chainly/JFKGround.mp3


So you can follow the action, there is an airport diagram available
he
http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0703/00610AD.PDF

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Old March 16th 07, 04:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Tony
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Talk about needing situational awareness!!!

Think about this guy at home, when his kid wants to go to the
bathroom: "Roger, left turn out of the bedroom, right at the third
door, hold short until company vacates the number one position."

On Mar 16, 12:20 pm, Larry Dighera wrote:
I received the following from a friend:

Here is a funny episode with a JFK ground controller and numerous
aircraft taxiing on the ground. Ground control at busy airports
like JFK is the busiest and most complex position in the tower.
There can be a hundred different taxi ways and most of them are
crossing runways or very close to it. One wrong turn by an
aircraft can lead to disaster or just a nightmare like this sound
clip: http://home.online.no/~chainly/JFKGround.mp3

So you can follow the action, there is an airport diagram available
hehttp://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0703/00610AD.PDF



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Old March 16th 07, 04:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kevin Clarke
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Larry Dighera wrote:
I received the following from a friend:

Here is a funny episode with a JFK ground controller and numerous
aircraft taxiing on the ground. Ground control at busy airports
like JFK is the busiest and most complex position in the tower.
There can be a hundred different taxi ways and most of them are
crossing runways or very close to it. One wrong turn by an
aircraft can lead to disaster or just a nightmare like this sound
clip: http://home.online.no/~chainly/JFKGround.mp3

That serves as a good reason to never fly into JFK. Good God.

KC
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Old March 16th 07, 04:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On 16 Mar 2007 09:37:21 -0700, "Tony" wrote in
. com:

Talk about needing situational awareness!!!


If you listen closely, it appears that one of the pilots failed to
follow the controllers instructions, and that resulted in the loss of
orderly movement on the taxiways.

Imagine trying to control a plethora of airliners on a myriad of
taxiways each operated by personnel for whom English may be a second
language. It's a wonder there aren't more runway incursion incidents.
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Old March 16th 07, 05:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Here is a funny episode with a JFK ground controller and numerous
aircraft taxiing on the ground.

Coincidentally I was listening to JFK Clearance Delevery/Ground last night.
The controller was one of the rudest I have ever heard, not so much in words
although there was some of that; but by the tone of his voice.

--
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Mike Mc
(Microsoft Certified Professional)

Pelican 223
A/123 AV BN 23rd ID
Chu Lai '68-'69

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Old March 16th 07, 05:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Shirl
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Here is a funny episode with a JFK ground controller and numerous
aircraft taxiing on the ground. Ground control at busy airports
like JFK is the busiest and most complex position in the tower.
There can be a hundred different taxi ways and most of them are
crossing runways or very close to it. One wrong turn by an
aircraft can lead to disaster or just a nightmare like this sound
clip: http://home.online.no/~chainly/JFKGround.mp3


My daughter is in Oklahoma at Air Traffic Control school.
No wonder she chose Enroute Control! Wow.
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Old March 16th 07, 09:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Pelican223 wrote:
Here is a funny episode with a JFK ground controller and numerous
aircraft taxiing on the ground.

Coincidentally I was listening to JFK Clearance Delevery/Ground last night.
The controller was one of the rudest I have ever heard, not so much in words
although there was some of that; but by the tone of his voice.


That isn't rude, that is just a typical NYC accent! :-)

Matt
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Old March 16th 07, 09:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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After listening to that, I really appreciate a good controller with a
sense of humor that can sort everything out as this guy did.
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Old March 16th 07, 10:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Larry Dighera wrote:

I received the following from a friend:

Here is a funny episode with a JFK ground controller and numerous
aircraft taxiing on the ground. Ground control at busy airports
like JFK is the busiest and most complex position in the tower.
There can be a hundred different taxi ways and most of them are
crossing runways or very close to it. One wrong turn by an
aircraft can lead to disaster or just a nightmare like this sound
clip: http://home.online.no/~chainly/JFKGround.mp3


So you can follow the action, there is an airport diagram available
he
http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0703/00610AD.PDF


I couldn't follow the action even with the diagram! I thought the guy
did a masterful job, even though someone else thought he was rude. I'll
take this guy any day.

Matt
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Old March 16th 07, 10:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
B A R R Y
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:52:09 GMT, Matt Whiting
wrote:

That isn't rude, that is just a typical NYC accent! :-)


That's exactly what I was thinking! G
 




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