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Old January 31st 12, 04:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
ASM
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Default Operating Limitations

To All,

Can someone email me a copy or a sample of the Operational Limitation
letter that needs to be send out to the FAA? I am guilty of not doing
that and would like to correct this problem. I am talking about a
letter that will permit operation of an experimental glider within a
300 nm radius from someone's home airport, participating in contests,
etc. Any help in this matter would be and will be greatly appreciated.
My email is jacek dot kobiesa at raypolandandsons dot com

Thanks,
Jacek
Pasco, WA
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Old January 31st 12, 05:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tony[_5_]
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Default Operating Limitations

On Jan 30, 10:30*pm, ASM wrote:
To All,

Can someone email me a copy or a sample of the Operational Limitation
letter that needs to be send out to the FAA? I am guilty of not doing
that and would like to correct this problem. I am talking about a
letter that will permit operation of an experimental glider within a
300 nm radius from someone's home airport, participating in contests,
etc. Any help in this matter would be and will be greatly appreciated.
My email is jacek dot kobiesa at raypolandandsons dot com

Thanks,
Jacek
Pasco, WA


http://www.ssa.org/test/docs/govnews/ProgramLetter.doc
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Old January 31st 12, 12:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dave Nadler
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It's called a "Program Letter".
I've emailed mine to you directly;
you'll need to find your local FAA contact for this.
Hope this helps,
Best Regards, Dave "YO electric"
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Old January 31st 12, 03:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andy[_1_]
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Default Operating Limitations

On Jan 30, 9:30*pm, ASM wrote:
To All,

Can someone email me a copy or a sample of the Operational Limitation
letter that needs to be send out to the FAA?


What does it say in your Operating Limitations? If those do not
specify the need for a Program Letter then none is required.

I do have to send one in but I swear they sit on the FAX until the
cleaner throws them out. Never seen any response from the FSDO. (and
that's good)

Email me (reply to author) if you want a copy of my last one.


Andy
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Old January 31st 12, 04:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mike the Strike
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On Jan 31, 8:34*am, Andy wrote:
On Jan 30, 9:30*pm, ASM wrote:

To All,


Can someone email me a copy or a sample of the Operational Limitation
letter that needs to be send out to the FAA?


What does it say in your Operating Limitations? *If those do not
specify the need for a Program Letter then none is required.

I do have to send one in but I swear they sit on the FAX until the
cleaner throws them out. Never seen any response from the FSDO. (and
that's good)

Email me (reply to author) if you want a copy of my last one.

Andy


I have a letter in a format different from that on the SSA site that I
obtained from another FAA source. Since my glider was examined last
year, I now have a dedicated examiner at my local FSDO and he
confirmed receiving my program letter last year. Some do get looked
at!

Mike

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Old January 31st 12, 04:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default Operating Limitations

Email sent. For anyone else interested, I contacted the FSDO by phone and
we discussed what was needed. After I had my letter prepared, I called him
back and, while on the phone, emailed the letter directly to him. He
received it and put it on file immediately. YMMV

Now I'll just update it annually.


"Andy" wrote in message
...
On Jan 30, 9:30 pm, ASM wrote:
To All,

Can someone email me a copy or a sample of the Operational Limitation
letter that needs to be send out to the FAA?


What does it say in your Operating Limitations? If those do not
specify the need for a Program Letter then none is required.

I do have to send one in but I swear they sit on the FAX until the
cleaner throws them out. Never seen any response from the FSDO. (and
that's good)

Email me (reply to author) if you want a copy of my last one.


Andy

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Old January 31st 12, 05:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
ASM
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Default Operating Limitations

On Jan 31, 8:38*am, "Dan Marotta" wrote:
Email sent. *For anyone else interested, I contacted the FSDO by phone and
we discussed what was needed. *After I had my letter prepared, I called him
back and, while on the phone, emailed the letter directly to him. *He
received it and put it on file immediately. *YMMV

Now I'll just update it annually.

"Andy" wrote in message

...
On Jan 30, 9:30 pm, ASM wrote:

To All,


Can someone email me a copy or a sample of the Operational Limitation
letter that needs to be send out to the FAA?


What does it say in your Operating Limitations? *If those do not
specify the need for a Program Letter then none is required.

I do have to send one in but I swear they sit on the FAX until the
cleaner throws them out. Never seen any response from the FSDO. (and
that's good)

Email me (reply to author) if you want a copy of my last one.

Andy


Thank you. I replied to your email, but there is a Cerberus at the
gate restricting access to you.

Jacek
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Old January 31st 12, 05:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
soartech[_2_]
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Default Operating Limitations

What? Another government intrusion? Isn't a registration enough?
How ridiculous!
Did you hear the FAA just banned all commercial use of RC helicopters
for one year while
they figure out how they are going to regulate them.
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Old January 31st 12, 06:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bob Kuykendall
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Default Operating Limitations

On Jan 31, 9:42*am, soartech wrote:
What? Another government intrusion? Isn't a registration enough?
How ridiculous!


Flying is a privilege, not a right. It bears further reflection that
the aircraft we're talking about here are experimental racing aircraft
that have not been tested to the certification criteria that have
applied to most aircraft since the 1930s. It seems reasonable that the
additional privilege of flying such craft over people's heads and
houses comes with a few minor strings attached.

Thanks, Bob K.
http://www.hpaircraft.com/hp-24
  #10  
Old February 1st 12, 03:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default Operating Limitations

Just for the sake of argument, the LAK is certified to EASA standards (hope
I got the acronym correct). There was just not an effort at reciprocity
with the FAA. This was also the case with with three of my four previous
gliders.

Experimental makes it easier for us as owners, in my opinion, because we
don't have quite as many restrictions on maintenance and equipment as the
Standard aircraft. On the downside, we have to jump through the hoop of
annual Program Letters.

And, for the annual condition inspection, A&P mechanics are more plentiful
(and less expensive) than mechanics with Inspection Authorization.


"Bob Kuykendall" wrote in message
...
On Jan 31, 9:42 am, soartech wrote:
What? Another government intrusion? Isn't a registration enough?
How ridiculous!


Flying is a privilege, not a right. It bears further reflection that
the aircraft we're talking about here are experimental racing aircraft
that have not been tested to the certification criteria that have
applied to most aircraft since the 1930s. It seems reasonable that the
additional privilege of flying such craft over people's heads and
houses comes with a few minor strings attached.

Thanks, Bob K.
http://www.hpaircraft.com/hp-24

 




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