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Old November 20th 08, 03:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default Mentally unstable airline pilot forcibly removed from flight deck

See

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27808624/
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Old November 20th 08, 09:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
terry
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Default Mentally unstable airline pilot forcibly removed from flight deck

On Nov 20, 2:41*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
See

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27808624/


So what are you thinking there Mxs , that there is hope for you yet?
I wouldn't hold your breath.

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Old November 20th 08, 03:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Given that the flight attendant holds a Commercial ticket and has the
instrument rating (is not current) it can be assumed that she was
capable of running a check list and handling the radio during an
approach and landing...
It is unlikely that she had 767 specific training, but the pilot knew
the systems and could direct her just the same as if he were giving
dual to a pilot going for the rating...

And the other thing is that landing the jet is not rocket science...
The cabin pressurization needed to be switched to landing mode... The
V speeds calculated (automatically displayed on the glass panel and
the pilot knows how to get those)... Flaps and gear at the proper
times - and remember to flare...
Fewer details than landing a pressurized prop twin...

ya, ya, ya, there are lots more details for the onboard PSU/power/
heating/cooling/etc/ systems, but those can all be dealt with after
landing...


denny
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Old November 20th 08, 03:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Mentally unstable airline pilot forcibly removed from flight deck

On Nov 20, 10:20*am, Denny wrote:
Given that the flight attendant holds a Commercial ticket and has the
instrument rating (is not current) it can be assumed that she was
capable of running a check list and handling the radio during an
approach and landing...
It is unlikely that she had 767 specific training, but the pilot knew
the systems and could direct her just the same as if he were giving
dual to a pilot going for the rating...

And the other thing is that landing the jet is not rocket science...
The cabin pressurization needed to be switched to landing mode... The
V speeds calculated (automatically displayed on the glass panel and
the pilot knows how to get those)... Flaps and gear at the proper
times - and remember to flare...
Fewer details than landing a pressurized prop twin...

ya, ya, ya, there are lots more details for the onboard PSU/power/
heating/cooling/etc/ systems, but those can all be dealt with after
landing...

denny


Remember to flare? You mean you can't three-point it? Are you reading
off a 767 descent & landing checklist there Denny? : )

Fortunately nothing out of the ordinary happned as having to deal with
an emergency in that situation would really ratchet up the stress. I'd
hope any commercial pilot could handle reading a checklist, even in a
widebody jet. What I found hysterical was the "one stewardess admitted
she held a current commercial pilot's license but said her license for
reading cockpit instruments had expired." So, I guess they had to
cover up the instruments on her side? Too funny... The media is a
hoot.
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Old November 20th 08, 04:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Mentally unstable airline pilot forcibly removed from flight deck

On Nov 20, 10:43*am, Kingfish wrote:
On Nov 20, 10:20*am, Denny wrote:



Given that the flight attendant holds a Commercial ticket and has the
instrument rating (is not current) it can be assumed that she was
capable of running a check list and handling the radio during an
approach and landing...
It is unlikely that she had 767 specific training, but the pilot knew
the systems and could direct her just the same as if he were giving
dual to a pilot going for the rating...


And the other thing is that landing the jet is not rocket science...
The cabin pressurization needed to be switched to landing mode... The
V speeds calculated (automatically displayed on the glass panel and
the pilot knows how to get those)... Flaps and gear at the proper
times - and remember to flare...
Fewer details than landing a pressurized prop twin...


ya, ya, ya, there are lots more details for the onboard PSU/power/
heating/cooling/etc/ systems, but those can all be dealt with after
landing...


denny


Remember to flare? You mean you can't three-point it? Are you reading
off a 767 descent & landing checklist there Denny? : )

Fortunately nothing out of the ordinary happned as having to deal with
an emergency in that situation would really ratchet up the stress. I'd
hope any commercial pilot could handle reading a checklist, even in a
widebody jet. What I found hysterical was the "one stewardess admitted
she held a current commercial pilot's license but said her license for
reading cockpit instruments had expired." So, I guess they had to
cover up the instruments on her side? Too funny... The media is a
hoot.


I wonder hour many hours in a B767 she got to log as instruction hours
from the capt. Hours in a B767 must be real expensive and if she had
to pay tax on that. g

Monk
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Old November 20th 08, 04:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Mentally unstable airline pilot forcibly removed from flight deck

On Nov 19, 9:41*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
See

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27808624/


That's what happens when you read R.A.P. while flying.

Godspeed Bertie!
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Old November 20th 08, 04:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Flyingmonk" wrote in message
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On Nov 20, 10:43 am, Kingfish wrote:


I wonder hour many hours in a B767 she got to log as instruction hours
from the capt. Hours in a B767 must be real expensive and if she had
to pay tax on that. g


Monk


It's a good thing she's got a commercial, or else she'd end up paying her
share of the costs.

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Old November 20th 08, 05:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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See

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27808624/


What, so you se a glimmer of hope for yuo there?

You'll have to leave your apartment first.


Baby steps.


Bertie
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Old November 20th 08, 05:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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Denny wrote in news:2dfb2455-aefb-4fa1-a1e6-
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Given that the flight attendant holds a Commercial ticket and has the
instrument rating (is not current) it can be assumed that she was
capable of running a check list and handling the radio during an
approach and landing...
It is unlikely that she had 767 specific training, but the pilot knew
the systems and could direct her just the same as if he were giving
dual to a pilot going for the rating...

And the other thing is that landing the jet is not rocket science...
The cabin pressurization needed to be switched to landing mode... The
V speeds calculated (automatically displayed on the glass panel and
the pilot knows how to get those)... Flaps and gear at the proper
times - and remember to flare...
Fewer details than landing a pressurized prop twin...


Actually, none of that is true for the 767.

the cabin is automatic, the destination landing elevation having been
set before departure, the V speeds do not come up on Efis on a 767, they
come from the FMS and are set the old fashioned way with bugs on the ASI
and the flaps and gear thing is the same with one or two guys.
any large jet can easily be flown single hadned, though. Even the old
ones with FEs need very little doing if everything is working OK.

ya, ya, ya, there are lots more details for the onboard PSU/power/
heating/cooling/etc/ systems, but those can all be dealt with after
landing...


Actually, there's very little to do there in a 767. After landing you
just retract the speedbrakes, pull the flaps up, turn off the xponder
and radar and that's pretty much it.



Bertie
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Old November 20th 08, 05:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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Default Mentally unstable airline pilot forcibly removed from flight deck

wrote in news:ac52dabc-2ebc-491e-abb9-c40cf516edf4
@j38g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:

On Nov 19, 9:41*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
See

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27808624/

That's what happens when you read R.A.P. while flying.

Godspeed Bertie!


Oi!

Bertie
 




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