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Old October 28th 03, 11:09 PM
Roger Long
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Default Perfect electro-magnetic storm

Last weeks solar flare was a non-event except for "a few aircraft navigation
systems" as NPR put it. The one that erupted this morning and will reach
earth Wednesday or Thursday is believed by astronomers to be possibly the
largest since the invention of the integrated circuit.

Time to dig out the sectionals and that cute little plotter AOPA sends you
every year in your membership packet.
--
Roger Long


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Old October 29th 03, 01:43 AM
Neal
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 23:09:40 GMT, "Roger Long"
om wrote:


Time to dig out the sectionals and that cute little plotter AOPA sends you
every year in your membership packet.


You got a plotter? I didn't get nuthin' but the new card and some
paperwork :-(
Wah!
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Old October 29th 03, 03:47 AM
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In article , Roger Long
om wrote:

Last weeks solar flare was a non-event except for "a few aircraft navigation
systems" as NPR put it. The one that erupted this morning and will reach
earth Wednesday or Thursday is believed by astronomers to be possibly the
largest since the invention of the integrated circuit.


Oh Great!!!
Tomorrow afternoon I am flying to Philadelphia for the AOPA Convention.
IFR, radios go TU, just what I need!
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Old October 29th 03, 04:50 AM
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 23:09:40 GMT, "Roger Long"
om wrote:

Last weeks solar flare was a non-event except for "a few aircraft navigation
systems" as NPR put it. The one that erupted this morning and will reach
earth Wednesday or Thursday is believed by astronomers to be possibly the
largest since the invention of the integrated circuit.

Time to dig out the sectionals and that cute little plotter AOPA sends you
every year in your membership packet.


It'll be interesting to see how the different forms of navigation hold
up.

I understand when the X-Rays hit they had the astronauts move into the
most shielded areas of the ISS.

It was a full coronal mass ejection directed straight at earth
traveling at several thousand KM per second. They figure about 19
hours to get here. It should hit some time around 1500Z, or early to
mid morning here in the east.

It won't give us a visible aurora during the day but it may still be
active tomorrow night. They expect aurora as far south as California
and Florida. Just remember what a big geomagnetic storm did to Quebec
a while back. Dumped a major portion of their power grid and here we
are still recovering from Ohio's mistake. :-))

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)
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Old October 29th 03, 12:50 PM
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In article , Roger Halstead
wrote:

Dumped a major portion of their power grid and here we
are still recovering from Ohio's mistake.


Don't be such a generalist, it was CLEVELAND, "The Mistake on the Lake".

As we sing in Ohio Stadium,
"We don't give a damn for the whole State of Michigan... the whole
State of Michigan... the whole State of Michigan... we don't give a
damn for the whole State of Michigan, we're from OHIO!"
:-)))
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Old October 29th 03, 02:44 PM
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"Roger Long" om wrote in
message ...
| Last weeks solar flare was a non-event except for "a few aircraft
navigation
| systems" as NPR put it. The one that erupted this morning and will reach
| earth Wednesday or Thursday is believed by astronomers to be possibly the
| largest since the invention of the integrated circuit.
|

Well, that flare is due here today. The news media are hysterical, talking
about the enormous danger to aircraft navigation systems. NPR has gone
absolutely ballistic. The general public should be whipped into a frenzy,
fearing that it will start raining airplanes any second.

Of course, the 'fair and balanced media' (and I do not mean just FOX, here),
will report tomorrow that nothing serious happened. Right? I mean, they do
admit when they are wrong, don't they?


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Old October 29th 03, 04:02 PM
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Homie, Homie, Homie.

Life becomes bliss when you break the info-tainment habit. g

My sister's ex is a (_____) fill in the blank. I, however, never get upset
when I'm around him. I expect this from him and he seldom disappoints. Zero
energy is expended, on my part, hoping he will become something that he
isn't. My idiotic sister still gets in arguments with him. For me it's Hi
Dave, how you doing?

--
Montblack
"Styled by the laws of nature.............Concorde"

("C J Campbell" wrote)
snip
Of course, the 'fair and balanced media' (and I do not mean just FOX,

here),
will report tomorrow that nothing serious happened. Right? I mean, they do
admit when they are wrong, don't they?



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Old October 29th 03, 04:05 PM
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Actually, NPR was very balanced. The flare is the largest in decades but
they pointed out that the effects are difficult to predict. There is a lot
of unevenness in the cloud and other unpredictable effects. The stuff that
could really disrupt things might well miss us.
--
Roger Long


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Old October 29th 03, 04:20 PM
Larry Dighera
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:02:08 -0600, "Montblack"
wrote in Message-Id:
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While the usual inanity contained in articles posted by Montblack are
easily dismissed, this caught my eye:

"Styled by the laws of nature.............Concorde"



It seems that the next generation of supersonic airliners may be
permitted to fly over the US (to the west coast where I reside):



http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/ne...rticle01.shtml
The shape of jets to come

AS TICKETS for Concorde's final flight go on sale this week, an
American aerospace company has demonstrated a way to modify a
supersonic jet to dramatically reduce its sonic boom. The work
could pave the way for a new generation of business jets quiet
enough to fly at supersonic speed over populated areas.

Sonic booms are one of the biggest drawbacks of supersonic flight.
They are the sharp thunderclaps caused by shock waves created at
the nose and tail of an aircraft meeting as they travel to the
ground. Where the shock waves overlap they reinforce each other,
creating the boom. Concorde's boom is so loud that it is forbidden
from flying at supersonic speeds over land.

In the 1970s, Richard Seebass and Albert George at Cornell
University in New York came up with a straightforward way to
counter the problem. They reasoned that a shock wave would be
weaker if it were spread out over a larger area. This could be
achieved by replacing a plane's sharp nose with a blunter shape
and redesigning parts of the wings, for example where the base of
the wing meets the fuselage, so that the angles between surfaces
do not change so sharply. The idea was to allow the shock waves to
form over larger areas of the aircraft's surface. Years of
computer modelling and wind tunnel tests have validated the
concept, but it had never been tried in flight.

Now the American aerospace company Northrop Grumman ...



http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993616
...
New chapter

A supersonic successor will be very different in design, Jackson
told New Scientist: "There will be such an interval before any
supersonic transport gets going again, that we'll start on a
separate chapter of air travel."

Bill Gunston, editor of Jane's Aero Engines and author of the book
Faster Than Sound, believes dramatic improvements in aerodynamics
over the last 30 years would now make it possible to build a much
far more efficient supersonic craft than Concorde. He says the
airplane's lift-to-drag ratio means it requires very powerful
engines and huge amounts of fuel.

"Any capable design outfit could design something vastly superior
to Concorde," Junston told New Scientist.
...


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/030929/12/e9q0q.html
Monday September 29, 04:00 PM

Curvy aircraft could silence sonic booms
By David L. Chandler

As tickets for Concorde's final flight go on sale this week, an
American aerospace company has demonstrated a way to modify a
supersonic jet to dramatically reduce its sonic boom.

The work could pave the way for a new generation of business jets
quiet enough to fly at supersonic speed over populated areas.

Sonic booms are one of the biggest drawbacks of supersonic flight.
They are the thunderclaps caused when shock waves created at the
nose and tail of an aircraft meet as they travel to the ground.
Where the shock waves overlap they reinforce each other, creating
the boom. Concorde's boom is so loud that the plane is forbidden
from flying at supersonic speeds over land.

In the 1970s, Richard Seebass and Albert George at Cornell
University in Ithaca, New York, came up with a straightforward way
to counter the problem. They reasoned that a shock wave would be
weaker if it were spread out over a larger area.

This could be achieved by replacing a plane's sharp nose with a
blunter shape and redesigning parts of the wings, for example
where the base of the wing meets the fuselage, so that the angles
between surfaces do not change so abruptly.

The idea was to force the shock waves to fan out more rapidly as
they move away from these curves, spreading out their energy.
Years of computer modelling and wind tunnel tests have validated
the concept, but it had never been tried in flight.

Now the American aerospace company Northrop Grumman has ...


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Old October 29th 03, 05:01 PM
Montblack
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A. You forgot the :-) .....g
See what I did there Larry,? I grinned the smiley.

B. I stole that sig line from somebody's post - Dave, in the Three Concordes
thread.

C. I'm going to have a beer - before noon, to celebrate being called inane
by LD. Inane Alert That pre-noon beer will sure take me back to my brewery
days. Ahhh, good times.

D. Dismissed!! Oh well. At least you didn't *plonk* me - did you? Larry?
Hello....

--
Montblack
"Just the usual inanity "


"Larry Dighera"
While the usual inanity contained in articles posted by Montblack are
easily dismissed, this caught my eye:

"Styled by the laws of nature.............Concorde"



 




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