After an annual?

Roy Smith wrote:

Check under the cowling. One guy in my club got a really nice Snap-On
wrench by doing a good preflight on a plane which had been flown home
from an annual the day before.

Got a nice Snap-On angled pick this year doing an owner assisted annual on
a friends plane... Comes in handy for lining up screw holes...

In article ,
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

When you pick up your plane after an annual, is there any special things
you do? I'm picking up the club's Lance after its annual today, and
flying it back from Batavia NY to Rochester NY (about a 25 minute flight).
Do you do any special pre-flight or flight check? I was planning to climb
up over the airport to about 4,000 feet so that I'll have some glide
cushion if something goes wrong.

one of the benefits on an owner-assisted annual is being involved in
the close-out of actions from the annual.

btw - following the installation of an overhauled engine, we (the A&P and I)
did the initial engine check-out flying a racetrack pattern at 2000' above
the airport. We simply told the tower that we wanted to orbit the field for
an engine test.

--
Bob Noel
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Bob Noel wrote:
In article ,
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

When you pick up your plane after an annual, is there any special things
you do? I'm picking up the club's Lance after its annual today, and
flying it back from Batavia NY to Rochester NY (about a 25 minute flight).
Do you do any special pre-flight or flight check? I was planning to climb
up over the airport to about 4,000 feet so that I'll have some glide
cushion if something goes wrong.

one of the benefits on an owner-assisted annual is being involved in
the close-out of actions from the annual.

btw - following the installation of an overhauled engine, we (the A&P and I)
did the initial engine check-out flying a racetrack pattern at 2000' above
the airport. We simply told the tower that we wanted to orbit the field for
an engine test.

Isn't that required by regulation (although only minimum crew is
allowed)? Doesn't the pilot have to sign the aircraft log as RTS after
the break in?

-Robert

In article . com,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

one of the benefits on an owner-assisted annual is being involved in
the close-out of actions from the annual.

btw - following the installation of an overhauled engine, we (the A&P and I)
did the initial engine check-out flying a racetrack pattern at 2000' above
the airport. We simply told the tower that we wanted to orbit the field for
an engine test.

Isn't that required by regulation (although only minimum crew is
allowed)?

Not that I've heard of.

Doesn't the pilot have to sign the aircraft log as RTS after
the break in?

No

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

Bob Noel wrote:
In article . com,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

one of the benefits on an owner-assisted annual is being involved in
the close-out of actions from the annual.

btw - following the installation of an overhauled engine, we (the A&P and I)
did the initial engine check-out flying a racetrack pattern at 2000' above
the airport. We simply told the tower that we wanted to orbit the field for
an engine test.

Isn't that required by regulation (although only minimum crew is
allowed)?

Not that I've heard of.

Section 91.407: Operation after maintenance, preventive maintenance,
rebuilding, or alteration.
(b) No person may carry any person (other than crewmembers) in an
aircraft that has been maintained, rebuilt, or altered in a manner that
may have appreciably changed its flight characteristics or
substantially affected its operation in flight until an appropriately
rated pilot with at least a private pilot certificate flies the
aircraft, makes an operational check of the maintenance performed or
alteration made, and logs the flight in the aircraft records.

On 19 Dec 2006 16:03:23 -0800, "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:

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Section 91.407: Operation after maintenance, preventive maintenance,
rebuilding, or alteration.
(b) No person may carry any person (other than crewmembers) in an
aircraft that has been maintained, rebuilt, or altered in a manner that
may have appreciably changed its flight characteristics or
substantially affected its operation in flight until an appropriately
rated pilot with at least a private pilot certificate flies the
aircraft, makes an operational check of the maintenance performed or
alteration made, and logs the flight in the aircraft records.

Anything other than a field overhaul will have been tested for static
horsepower and "run-in" in a test cell according to the mfg's
instructions.

Other than major airframe repairs after a wreck (and certain
autoflight system repairs), I have never signed off/or required a test
flight.

Personally, I don't think a brand spanking new engine-out landing will
be "appreciably changed" from a whipped 20something year-old
engine-out landing...

TC

In article . com,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

Isn't that required by regulation (although only minimum crew is
allowed)?

Not that I've heard of.

Section 91.407: Operation after maintenance, preventive maintenance,
rebuilding, or alteration.
(b) No person may carry any person (other than crewmembers) in an
aircraft that has been maintained, rebuilt, or altered in a manner that
may have appreciably changed its flight characteristics or
substantially affected its operation in flight until an appropriately
rated pilot with at least a private pilot certificate flies the
aircraft, makes an operational check of the maintenance performed or
alteration made, and logs the flight in the aircraft records.

How would an engine overhaul have changed the aircraft's flight characteristics?

Seriously, I really don't see how 91.407 requires a flight test. Heck, even the
STC to install the 160hp engine in my cherokee didn't require a flight test.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

Robert M. Gary wrote:

Isn't that required by regulation (although only minimum crew is
allowed)? Doesn't the pilot have to sign the aircraft log as RTS after
the break in?


We recently had a guy orbiting our home field for what seemed like
forever after an engine swap.

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Robert M. Gary wrote:

Isn't that required by regulation (although only minimum crew is
allowed)? Doesn't the pilot have to sign the aircraft log as RTS after
the break in?


We recently had a guy orbiting our home field for what seemed like
forever after an engine swap.

B A R R Y wrote:
Robert M. Gary wrote:

Isn't that required by regulation (although only minimum crew is
allowed)? Doesn't the pilot have to sign the aircraft log as RTS after
the break in?


We recently had a guy orbiting our home field for what seemed like
forever after an engine swap.

I did this after my recent fuel servo overhaul. It was a good idea too
because the engine flat died before I was able to lean it to a normal
cruise mixture.

-Robert