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Old June 1st 07, 03:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Orval Fairbairn
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In article ,
"Blueskies" wrote:

"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:08:45 GMT, "Dick" wrote:

How is the add water to gas test made ? Thanks


See Page 4 of

http://www.eaa26.org/apr06.pdf

Ron Wanttaja


Yup, works real well. A test tube with a 10% level line on it. Fill with
water to the 10% line, fill remainder with fuel
under test. Shake it up, and if the separation line is higher up the tube
that the original water separation line, the
water absorbed the alcohol adding to its volume. Works right now basically no
waiting...

I have not tried Jays Alka Seltzer method....


I tried the Alka Seltzer trick on some denatured alcohol -- no result.
It did not fizz!
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Old June 1st 07, 04:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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I tried the Alka Seltzer trick on some denatured alcohol -- no result.
It did not fizz!- Hide quoted text -


You talking about "rubbing alcohol"? We tested it with that, and it
worked for us.

Fizzing, that is...

;-)
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Iowa City, IA
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Old June 2nd 07, 07:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
news snip

I tried the Alka Seltzer trick on some denatured alcohol -- no result.
It did not fizz!


You know I've been wondering: Does the Alka Seltzer trick really check to
see if alcohol is present? I'm no chemist, but I wonder if the Alka Seltzer
is just reacting with the water that most alcohols will attract from the
moisture in the air.

How about it? Any chemists in the group? If the mogas were blended with
alcohol with low water content, would the Alka Seltzer fizz at all? Maybe
the best test is still the "line on the beaker" test.

Regards,
John Severyn
KLVK (all mogas has alky in my area, making my STC no good at all)


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Old May 31st 07, 04:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Is it true that there is no longer any requirement to label gasoline contaminated with alcohol?

Haven't noticed any change, here in the heart of ethanol-land...

Jay, where do you fill the grape from and how do you know there is no evil alcohol in it?


We test each tank using the "alka-seltzer test". This involves
putting fuel in a cup that contains 1/3 tablet of alka-seltzer, and
observing the results.

If it fizzes, it's got water, ethanol, or both in it. It if doesn't,
it's pure gas.
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Old May 31st 07, 04:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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I'm curious. I can understand a whole tablet, a half tablet, or a quarter
tablet. What is magic about a THIRD of a tablet?

Jim




We test each tank using the "alka-seltzer test". This involves
putting fuel in a cup that contains 1/3 tablet of alka-seltzer, and
observing the results.



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Old May 31st 07, 05:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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I'm curious. I can understand a whole tablet, a half tablet, or a quarter
tablet. What is magic about a THIRD of a tablet?


It's very technical.

Actually, I meant to type a "4", but I hit the "3" by accident. In a
flash, I thought "Should I bother to correct that?" and the answer was
"Nah...it doesn't matter."...

:-)
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
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Old May 31st 07, 05:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck wrote:
I'm curious. I can understand a whole tablet, a half tablet, or a
quarter tablet. What is magic about a THIRD of a tablet?


It's very technical.

Actually, I meant to type a "4", but I hit the "3" by accident. In a
flash, I thought "Should I bother to correct that?" and the answer was
"Nah...it doesn't matter."...

:-)


Tell the truth Jay. Is it because a 1/2 or full tablet won't fit in the Coke
bottle you are using?


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Old May 31st 07, 10:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Tell the truth Jay. Is it because a 1/2 or full tablet won't fit in the Coke
bottle you are using?


Actually, we use a genuine AOPA coffee mug for our testing...

;-)

Really, it doesn't matter how big the piece is -- if it fizzes, you've
got junk gas. It's only got to be big enough to see at the bottom of
the mug.
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Old June 1st 07, 03:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
...
Jay Honeck wrote:
I'm curious. I can understand a whole tablet, a half tablet, or a
quarter tablet. What is magic about a THIRD of a tablet?


It's very technical.

Actually, I meant to type a "4", but I hit the "3" by accident. In a
flash, I thought "Should I bother to correct that?" and the answer was
"Nah...it doesn't matter."...

:-)


Tell the truth Jay. Is it because a 1/2 or full tablet won't fit in the
Coke bottle you are using?

http://www.investors.com/editorial/c...oon051507c.gif

{Chuckle}


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Matt Barrow
Performace Homes, LLC.
Cheyenne, WY


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Old May 31st 07, 08:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 20:13:12 -0400, "Blueskies"
wrote:

Jay, where do you fill the grape from and how do you know there is no evil alcohol in it?


Hampton Airport in SE New Hampshire sells straight mogas with no
additives. They buy it by the tankload at the terminal in Portland ME
before the bad stuff goes in.



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