Crab, slips, and crossed controls

wrote:
Sure they are still being taught, though the emphasis these days
is in crosswind landings. I think I only did one or two to lose
altitude while a student, the instructors comment being if you
plan properly you seldom need to do this in an airplane with flaps.

Exactly. My instructor's comment was that we were practicing it in case
the flaps failed. And because it's in the PTS, of course.

.... Alan
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Alan Gerber
PP-ASEL
gerber AT panix DOT com

Gene Seibel wrote:
Slips were in common use for bringing an aircraft down in the days
before flaps, and were taught for that purpose when learned to fly in
the 70's. They work very well. Is that no longer being taught?

It's still in the PTS, as far as I can tell. It's even required to be
taught pre-solo.

.... Alan
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Alan Gerber
PP-ASEL
gerber AT panix DOT com

Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe schrieb:

In the rest of the world however, a slip is a slip is a slip. Which is
how airplanes see it, too, I suppose.

Yea, but you have to remember which is which in case it comes up on a test.

Now *this* is a valid argument which I must accept! :-)

schrieb:

The Air Canada pilot was a sailplane pilot, too, familiar with
slipping, and had operated sailplanes out of Gimli so he knew the
place. If anyone else had been at the controls it might not have
turned out so pretty.

An airline pilot who happens to also be a pretty good sailplane pilot
told me that it would have been much easier and equally efficient to
just do S turns to adjust the glide path. This would also have avoided
possible problems driving the air driven generator. The pilot who who
did a glider landing with anairbus on the Azores in 2001 used that
technique.

Mick schrieb:

| Glider pilots use them on occasion for rapid descent and they are expected
| to demonstrate proficiency in them on the practical exam.

How do you maintain alignment with the tow plane?

When *descending*? )

BTW, some glider pilots use short slips to take up slack from the tow
rope, should there happen to occur some in turbulence. Most prefer the
use of airbrakes, though.

"Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in :


"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
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| Amine wrote:
| Now I thought that sideslips (and crabs--whatever the difference
| between the two is...) were only to be used to handle crosswinds. I
| didn't read anywhere that they could be used to bleed excessive
| speed, although it makes sense from an aerodynamics perspective.
| Anyone out there used sideslips for anything other than crosswind
| approaches?
|
| Glider pilots use them on occasion for rapid descent and they are
| expected to demonstrate proficiency in them on the practical exam.

How do you maintain alignment with the tow plane?


What's it to you, you don't fly.


Bertie

Stefan wrote in
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Mick schrieb:

| Glider pilots use them on occasion for rapid descent and they are
| expected to demonstrate proficiency in them on the practical exam.

How do you maintain alignment with the tow plane?

When *descending*? )

BTW, some glider pilots use short slips to take up slack from the tow
rope, should there happen to occur some in turbulence. Most prefer the
use of airbrakes, though.


No, they don;t fjukkktard.


They skid.



Bertie

"Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in :


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| Stefan wrote in
| news:1fb3$48d7ad48$54487392$9846 @news.hispeed.ch:
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| Robert Moore schrieb:
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| What you have described is the "forward slip". Although control
| usage is the same in both, a "side slip" is used to correct for a
| crosswind, and a "forward slip" is used to descend more rapidly
|
| A slip is a slip is a slip.
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|
| No it isn't.
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| Bertie

Then how is it different, dumb ass.



What's it to you, you don't fly and never will.


You just proved that with this poast.


Bertie

"Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in :


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| Stefan wrote in news:9cc9b$48d7b746
$54487392
| :
|
| Robert Moore schrieb:
|
| A slip is a slip is a slip.
|
| From The FAA H-8083-3a, Airplane Flying Handbook
|
| Ok, so in the USA there exist several different brands of slips.
|
| In the rest of the world however, a slip is a slip is a slip. Which
is
| how airplanes see it, too, I suppose.
|
|
| You're full of ****, stefan.
|
| Slips are slips no matter where you are and slips, while
aerodynamically
| identical have different references.
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| Bertie
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You're full of ****. A slip is a slip, and you are a sap.






nope, doesn't matter since you don't fly, though.


Bertie

Alan Gerber wrote in news:gb9s8n$ngu$1
@reader1.panix.com:

wrote:
Sure they are still being taught, though the emphasis these days
is in crosswind landings. I think I only did one or two to lose
altitude while a student, the instructors comment being if you
plan properly you seldom need to do this in an airplane with flaps.

Exactly. My instructor's comment was that we were practicing it in case
the flaps failed. And because it's in the PTS, of course.

There's value in that, but they're also more useful than flaps in the event
of an engine failure. You get better glide control with them and you can
always use the flaps at the end of the glide..


Bertie