Glass cockpit hard to read

To all:

Please be aware the Anthony Atkielski (mxsmanic) is not a pilot, and has
never held an aviation medical. In fact he has never even taken a lesson,
let alone fly in a small plane.

He certainly has never flown with or operated a G-1000 or anything remotely
similar.

To all:

Please be aware the Anthony Atkielski (mxsmanic) is not a pilot, and has
never held an aviation medical. In fact he has never even taken a lesson,
let alone fly in a small plane.

He certainly has never flown with or operated a G-1000 or anything remotely
similar.

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote:

An analogue display cuts the left hand side out of the loop and enables
the calcualtion rate to increase the right sides "frame rate" so that
corrections can be made more frequently thus enabling the pilot to fly
the airplane more smooothly and with more authority.
Caorse rule of thumb math can be laid over this for descent angles,
interceptin angles and wo on, but generally, the fewer numbers involved,
the better.
People who prefer the numbers usualy don't fly very well at all.


Bless you, my boy.

I thought the reason I hated the tapes was that I'm just an old fogie. Now I
know it's because I'm a natural!

Most gratifying news.


--
Dan
T-182T at BFM

"Dan Luke" wrote in
:


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote:

An analogue display cuts the left hand side out of the loop and
enables the calcualtion rate to increase the right sides "frame rate"
so that corrections can be made more frequently thus enabling the
pilot to fly the airplane more smooothly and with more authority.
Caorse rule of thumb math can be laid over this for descent angles,
interceptin angles and wo on, but generally, the fewer numbers
involved, the better.
People who prefer the numbers usualy don't fly very well at all.


Bless you, my boy.

I thought the reason I hated the tapes was that I'm just an old fogie.
Now I know it's because I'm a natural!


'xactly.

've had a speed tape in front of me for years now and I still look right
past it to the ASI. It does have a useful function in that it flashes if I
get more than a few knots away from bug speed whilst hand flying, but
intuitive use of the ASI needle is al I have found I'd ever need.

Most gratifying news.



That's why the name Berite the Bunyip is a byword for service.


Bertie

On Oct 6, 2:35 pm, Arno wrote:
Dean,

I just noticed something interesting, looking at pictures of recent
Boeing and Airbus PFDs. For altitude, they are both pretty much the
same, but for the speed tape, Airbus does not have a big number at the
center of the tape but instead the number on top of the tape and just
a thin line at the center. After my experience today I like the Airbus
better because it is less conducive to reading the numbers rather than
"get the picture":

Airbus A340:

http://simflight.nl/users/reviews/CL...nshots/PFD.jpg

Boeing 777:

http://www.meriweather.com/777/fwd/pfd.html

Arno

Take a look at the speed tape on the 777. The tape itself gives you
the course rate of change, while the window gives you the fine
resolution changes with the 1's place on the airspace as a sliding
digit. The Airbus doesn't give you that.

Bertie the Bunyip writes:

Flying is a right hand brain activity. At least the handling portion is.
The right hand side of the brain dosn't do abstractions like numbers, at
least not until the left hand side (which can't fly worth a ****) sends
it over to the right side in a readily digestable form which enables the
right brain to chew it into a picture.

An analogue display cuts the left hand side out of the loop and enables
the calcualtion rate to increase the right sides "frame rate" so that
corrections can be made more frequently thus enabling the pilot to fly
the airplane more smooothly and with more authority.

Most of this is pure speculation, although it is interesting.

People who prefer the numbers usualy don't fly very well at all.

Unless, of course, they are flying an airliner in which systems are more
important than hand-flying. In that case, they may be a lot better at it.

You don't do trig while you're shooting pool and expect to win the game.

Some people do (cf. card counters).

writes:

A lot of human factors work went into the tape formats, and it was
with the understanding that training would be required for pilots to
adapt to them.

True for the avionics on large airliners, no doubt, but was the same effort
put into the glass cockpits one finds on small aircraft? It sure doesn't look
like it sometimes.

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
john smith wrote in
:

In article ,
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

You don't do trig while you're shooting pool and expect to win the
game.

You're right, I do geometry. :-))

Nobody can do geometry properly with the required alchohol load to play
pool properly

I consider it well played if I manage to hit the cue ball with the cue
stick. And that's sometimes with no alcohol load. I then pray (a dubious
thing for an atheist to do) for fortuitous stochastic scattering to align
with my prediction.

On Oct 6, 6:10 pm, wrote:
On Oct 6, 2:35 pm, Arno wrote:





Dean,

I just noticed something interesting, looking at pictures of recent
Boeing and Airbus PFDs. For altitude, they are both pretty much the
same, but for the speed tape, Airbus does not have a big number at the
center of the tape but instead the number on top of the tape and just
a thin line at the center. After my experience today I like the Airbus
better because it is less conducive to reading the numbers rather than
"get the picture":

Airbus A340:

http://simflight.nl/users/reviews/CL...nshots/PFD.jpg

Boeing 777:

http://www.meriweather.com/777/fwd/pfd.html

Arno

Take a look at the speed tape on the 777. The tape itself gives you
the course rate of change, while the window gives you the fine
resolution changes with the 1's place on the airspace as a sliding
digit. The Airbus doesn't give you that.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oops, typo, make that "coarse rate of change"

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip writes:

Flying is a right hand brain activity. At least the handling portion
is. The right hand side of the brain dosn't do abstractions like
numbers, at least not until the left hand side (which can't fly worth
a ****) sends it over to the right side in a readily digestable form
which enables the right brain to chew it into a picture.

An analogue display cuts the left hand side out of the loop and
enables the calcualtion rate to increase the right sides "frame rate"
so that corrections can be made more frequently thus enabling the
pilot to fly the airplane more smooothly and with more authority.

Most of this is pure speculation, although it is interesting.


No it isn't. I do it, you don;t


People who prefer the numbers usualy don't fly very well at all.

Unless, of course, they are flying an airliner in which systems are
more important than hand-flying. In that case, they may be a lot
better at it.


It was an airliner I was talking about Fjukktard.

I
You don't do trig while you're shooting pool and expect to win the
game.

Some people do (cf. card counters).

Card counters use trig to play pool , do they?

You are the dumbest fjukkwit I've ever seen.

Bertie