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Old September 17th 08, 03:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Viperdoc[_5_]
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In flight surgeon training in Texas we got to take a ride (and still need to
do so periodically) in the high altitude chamber, as do all current people
on flying status. Since gases expand as the ambient pressure decreases, we
were told to simply let it go when the urge arose.

Considering we were in Texas and eating a lot of Mexican food including
beans, this produced a lot of gas.

So, at high altitude, is it appropriate to say excuse me, ignore the
flatulence, or look at the guy in the next seat with disgust, as if he
(she)were the source? What is the proper etiquette with pilots of different
gender?

In fact, how does one use a relief tube with an FO of the other gender, or
vice versa? What is the correct response in these circumstances?

These questions address important aspects of flying that simply can not be
reproduced in the sim, so any help would be appreciated.


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Old September 17th 08, 03:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]
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Viperdoc wrote:

In flight surgeon training in Texas we got to take a ride (and still
need to do so periodically) in the high altitude chamber, as do all
current people on flying status. Since gases expand as the ambient
pressure decreases, we were told to simply let it go when the urge
arose.
Considering we were in Texas and eating a lot of Mexican food
including beans, this produced a lot of gas.

So, at high altitude, is it appropriate to say excuse me, ignore the
flatulence, or look at the guy in the next seat with disgust, as if he
(she)were the source? What is the proper etiquette with pilots of
different gender?


I took a chamber flight in Texas, about 25 years ago. I don't remember how
many were in the chamber, must have been at least a dozen. I also remember
the admonition to just let it go. But we we're all wearing helmets and
masks, I don't recall noticing if anyone really ripped one. Unless the
culprit was left sitting in a cloud of blue gas or something similar how
would we?


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Old September 17th 08, 03:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Logajan
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"Viperdoc" wrote:
In flight surgeon training in Texas we got to take a ride (and still
need to do so periodically) in the high altitude chamber, as do all
current people on flying status. Since gases expand as the ambient
pressure decreases, we were told to simply let it go when the urge
arose.

Considering we were in Texas and eating a lot of Mexican food
including beans, this produced a lot of gas.


The procedure for handling this situation is covered in section 6-3-5 of
the AIM.

;-)
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Old September 17th 08, 03:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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"Viperdoc" wrote in
:

In flight surgeon training in Texas we got to take a ride (and still
need to do so periodically) in the high altitude chamber, as do all
current people on flying status. Since gases expand as the ambient
pressure decreases, we were told to simply let it go when the urge
arose.

Considering we were in Texas and eating a lot of Mexican food
including beans, this produced a lot of gas.

So, at high altitude, is it appropriate to say excuse me, ignore the
flatulence, or look at the guy in the next seat with disgust, as if he
(she)were the source? What is the proper etiquette with pilots of
different gender?



Well, one guy I used to fly with challenged me to guess what he had
eaten for dinnner the night before based on the smell. Does that count?

In actual fact, in my type of flying, you don't really fart all that
much more than you would on the deck. It'd be different with higher
rates of climb in the cabin, but we seldom do more than about 350 fpm.

In fact, how does one use a relief tube with an FO of the other
gender, or vice versa? What is the correct response in these
circumstances?



The girls are better at holding it in. They just don't go! When I had to
go with a female FO I just got her to turn away..

These questions address important aspects of flying that simply can
not be reproduced in the sim, so any help would be appreciated.




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Old September 17th 08, 12:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:17:07 -0500, "Viperdoc"
wrote:

In flight surgeon training in Texas we got to take a ride (and still need to
do so periodically) in the high altitude chamber, as do all current people
on flying status. Since gases expand as the ambient pressure decreases, we
were told to simply let it go when the urge arose.

Considering we were in Texas and eating a lot of Mexican food including
beans, this produced a lot of gas.

So, at high altitude, is it appropriate to say excuse me, ignore the
flatulence, or look at the guy in the next seat with disgust, as if he
(she)were the source? What is the proper etiquette with pilots of different
gender?

In fact, how does one use a relief tube with an FO of the other gender, or
vice versa? What is the correct response in these circumstances?

These questions address important aspects of flying that simply can not be
reproduced in the sim, so any help would be appreciated.


thank god you asked! heavens if proper etiquette isnt followed the
world will cease as we know it.

what you do in polite company is to subtlely lean to one side, lift a
cheek of your arse just a little off the seat and issue forth with a
short whistle and then say "Badger!"

the whistle will draw their attention but of course they will usually
have no idea why you said "badger" so they'll ask.
to which you can reply "well since you asked I'm just warning you that
I'm about to let fly with a massive fart. it seemed the decent thing
to do"

:-)

Stealth Pilot


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Old September 17th 08, 02:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Viperdoc" wrote in message
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In flight surgeon training in Texas we got to take a ride (and still need
to do so periodically) in the high altitude chamber, as do all current
people on flying status. Since gases expand as the ambient pressure
decreases, we were told to simply let it go when the urge arose.

Considering we were in Texas and eating a lot of Mexican food including
beans, this produced a lot of gas.

So, at high altitude, is it appropriate to say excuse me, ignore the
flatulence, or look at the guy in the next seat with disgust, as if he
(she)were the source? What is the proper etiquette with pilots of
different gender?

In fact, how does one use a relief tube with an FO of the other gender, or
vice versa? What is the correct response in these circumstances?

These questions address important aspects of flying that simply can not be
reproduced in the sim, so any help would be appreciated.


My first course of action is to blame the family pet but since he is not
always available I usually go with B. look at my partner with disgust. That
doesn't always work if there are only two of us though!

--

*H. Allen Smith*
WACO - We are all here, because we are not all there.


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Old September 17th 08, 11:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sep 17, 9:34*am, "Allen" wrote:

My first course of action is to blame the family pet but since he is not
always available I usually go with B. look at my partner with disgust. *That
doesn't always work if there are only two of us though!


I had to laugh at this... 'cause it happened to me

I was flying a Caravan this summer, doing the White Plains - Nantucket
run and one of our trips out of ACK had an older couple with a 70lb
yellow Lab. Well, on climbout I was chatting with the other pilot and
we both got a whiff of dog ass that made us look at each other with
that "jeezus what the hell was that" look. Turns out the Lab was
laying down in the aisle, right behind us between his owners. It must
have been the climb, because that mutt let 'em rip all the way up to
cruise alt and then again all the way down. I don't know what those
people feed that dog, but he sure as hell could use a change in his
diet. I can only imagine what the folks in the other seats thought.

At least nobody blamed me.
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Old September 18th 08, 04:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Kingfish writes:

I don't know what those people feed that dog, but he sure as
hell could use a change in his diet.


Dogs are carnivores, and a diet high in meat produces a lot of volatile,
foul-smelling compounds in the GI tract that are responsible for much of the
odor of their flatus. The same principle applies to omnivores such as human
beings, meaning that meat-eating human beings produce more odor than
vegetarians. These odors apply not only to flatus but also to feces
themselves.
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Old September 18th 08, 04:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Kingfish writes:

I don't know what those people feed that dog, but he sure as
hell could use a change in his diet.


Dogs are carnivores, and a diet high in meat produces a lot of
volatile, foul-smelling compounds in the GI tract that are responsible
for much of the odor of their flatus. The same principle applies to
omnivores such as human beings, meaning that meat-eating human beings
produce more odor than vegetarians. These odors apply not only to
flatus but also to feces themselves.


Thank you mr wickipedia.



You're an idiot.


Bertie
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Old September 18th 08, 05:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
george
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On Sep 18, 3:39 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote :

Kingfish writes:


I don't know what those people feed that dog, but he sure as
hell could use a change in his diet.


Dogs are carnivores, and a diet high in meat produces a lot of
volatile, foul-smelling compounds in the GI tract that are responsible
for much of the odor of their flatus. The same principle applies to
omnivores such as human beings, meaning that meat-eating human beings
produce more odor than vegetarians. These odors apply not only to
flatus but also to feces themselves.


Thank you mr wickipedia.

You're an idiot.


He's just explaining as to why (and how) he stinks the group up

 




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