Harley engine special

"Barnyard BOb -" wrote in message
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Both these guys are classic extremes of how dumb luck can rule!
Blanton survived in spite of himself while Wittman died because of
himself.

Not so fast, BoOb. Wittman was around 90 when he died. At the time he
covered his aircraft with polyester fabric and used dope to glue and finish
it, it was a popular thing to do.

I'd wager you won't see his years. I doubt with your bile you'll even see
80.

Barnyard BOb - wrote in message . ..
(Jim-Ed Browne) wrote:

It would be exceedingly rare for any pilot with many thousands of
hours experience, like myself, to endorse your warped & cavalier view.

Ever wonder why?

Steve Wittman and Dave Blanton both flew auto engines very
successfully for a lot of hours, both being past middle age when they
started with thousands of flight hours. Steve was killed with his much
younger wife behind a Lycoming-although there's no evidence it was
anything to do with the engine, indeed, it's a mystery to this day-and
Dave died of old age. They were both _experimenters_, but safe and
methodical ones, the kind that made aviation in the first place and
then experimental sport aviation possible.
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You continue to demonstrate a terminal case of dumb ass.
You wouldn't know "safe and methodical" if it bit you in the butt.
Read the current posts and comments about Blanton and Wittman.
Both these guys are classic extremes of how dumb luck can rule!
Blanton survived in spite of himself while Wittman died because of
himself. Where do you fit in? Do you possess the genius of these
two men? If so, you have a 50/50 chance of being a fatality.

When all the smoke clears, only a few of the very best auto
conversions will get within spitting distance of the performance
and reliably offered by Lycoming and Continental on an every
day basis. Home brewed auto conversions have been long on
promise and short on delivery since the Ford Model A engine.
Little has occurred since to warrant greater success for the masses.
Especially, today, when aviation insurances companies are loath to
insure auto conversion power in aircraft. Nothing like negative stats
to put the insurance industry in a tailspin. [Pardon the pun.]

As has been already stated, I am not against auto conversions.....
just jerks like you that promote them so ignorantly, wrong headedly
and cavalierly.


Barnyard BOb - experimental builder/pilot before you were born?

Hey BLOb, we are all still waiting for you post some pics of the
homebuilt you bought, read { you did not build yourself} and
supposably fly. Are ya gonna prove you are for real or just a keyboard
pilot. It's an easy thing to do, simply send Jay a few pics to his
alexis park inn site and he will post them. That is if you know how to
use a digital camera. All of us building EXPERIMENTAL planes will
leave you alone to yourself and your handful of supporters. I, for one
am betting there is no plane in your hanger, Please prove me wrong.. I
have to admit you are very well spoken and seem educated, it's just
you are in the wrong newsgroup whinning about HOMEBUILT planes powered
by alternative engines. I got an idea, why don't you take all your
skills and start a rec. aviation. Lycoming group. Ok BLOb, it's your
move...

Yours truly. Ben Haas

Barnyard BOb - wrote in message . ..
Richard Lamb wrote:

Jim-Ed Browne wrote:

The LyCon flat air cooled engines belong in museums and restored
MM-era bug smashers, nowhere else. I saw a composite biplane built to
very detailed skin perfection in one of the crappy "popular science"
magazines-it was built by some guy who works for Rutan- and I actually
started laughing out loud when I saw that stupid 1920's era
construction overgrown lawnmower engine under the cowling.


Sorry JimBob,

Claiming that engines that evolved to turn propellers are obsolete
is clearly incorrect, and will be as long as they are the predominant
engines flying.
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JimBob is a troll...
and not a very bright one.


Barnyard BOb -

We are all still waiting for pics of your plane. You do have one don't ya???????????

Yours truly. Ben Haas

On 20 May 2004 06:36:38 -0700, (Ben Haas) wrote:

Hey BLOb, we are all still waiting for you post some pics of the
homebuilt you bought, read { you did not build yourself} and
supposably fly. Are ya gonna prove you are for real or just a keyboard
pilot.

Here's one he built:

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/pix/ind...m#urban-N4610G

Ron Wanttaja

On Thu, 20 May 2004 14:07:01 GMT, Ron Wanttaja
wrote:

On 20 May 2004 06:36:38 -0700, (Ben Haas) wrote:

Hey BLOb, we are all still waiting for you post some pics of the
homebuilt you bought, read { you did not build yourself} and
supposably fly. Are ya gonna prove you are for real or just a keyboard
pilot.

Here's one he built:

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/pix/ind...m#urban-N4610G

Ron Wanttaja
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Thanks for the assist, Ron.


Barnyard BOb -

Ben Hass wrote:

Hey BLOb, we are all still waiting for you post some pics of the
homebuilt you bought, read { you did not build yourself} and
supposably fly. Are ya gonna prove you are for real or just a keyboard
pilot.

Here's one he built:

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/pix/ind...m#urban-N4610G

Ron Wanttaja
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

BLOB is it?
You never know when to quit do you, Hass-Hole?
Good luck disparaging my 50 years of aviation history/credentials.

Let it be known, you're the dood with squat for accomplishments.
You've yet to earn a place in line to even lick my flight boots!

Anytime you care to go toe to toe.....
Just list your accomplishments to show the troops where I stand
in this aviation barnyard compared to you. WARNING......
Be prepared to be one embarrassed big mouthed sumbitch!

P.S.
I've had your worthless H-ass filtered out for a long time.
If Ron had not replied to you, and you were not good for
another laugh, your pubescent and hypocritical diarrhea
would have been in vain. You and others of your ilk can
double or triple team me here, but you are just doomed
lightweight accidents going somewhere to happen.

- Plonk -


Barnyard BOb - longtime experimental builder and pilot

" jls" wrote:


I'd wager you won't see his years. I doubt with your bile you'll even see
80.
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Calling me names and offering me an asinine wager?
You sure showed me up and impressed the group.

Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.



Barnyard BOb -

"Barnyard BOb -" wrote in message
...

" jls" wrote:


I'd wager you won't see his years. I doubt with your bile you'll even
see
80.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Calling me names and offering me an asinine wager?
You sure showed me up and impressed the group.

Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.



Barnyard BOb -

Not meant to be brilliant, just reasonable. If you are building something,
tell what it is. If you bought an RV someone else built, admit to it. If
you have an unfinished RV-3, as has been said of you, gathering dust, admit
to it. Can you build or rebuild an engine? Or have you ever tried it. I
doubt it.

Ron has published a picture of a Flybaby you built. How long ago was that?
And is that all you ever built? Not that I am saying that THAT wasn't
quite a phenomenon.

And don't be a hypocrite. Calling names, personal attacks, and engaging in
diatribes is a forte of yours.

I have personally seen a few auto engine installations, like Soobs and
Suzukis, in aircraft which were well-done and gave lots of trouble-free
hours and are still giving them. The ultralighters at State Line Ultraport
have used quite a few unconventional engines and have made them work, even
here in the mountains where off-field landings are chancy. Don't make
sweeping generalizations if you expect credibility.

And aren't you the guy who said he went to get in his agplane one day and
the safety harness disintegrated and fell apart from UV rays and old age?

Both these guys are classic extremes of how dumb luck can rule!
Blanton survived in spite of himself while Wittman died because of
himself. - Barnyard BOb -

Not so fast, BoOb. Wittman was around 90 when he died. At the time he
covered his aircraft with polyester fabric and used dope to glue and finish
it, it was a popular thing to do. - jls
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GEEZUS!!!!

Perhaps you did not see Dave Hyde's post regarding Wittman....

"AILERON-WING FLUTTER INDUCED BY
SEPARATION AT THE TRAILING EDGE OF AN UNBONDED
PORTION OF WING FABRIC AT AN AILERON WING STATION.
THE DEBONDING OF THE WING FABRIC WAS A RESULT OF
IMPROPER INSTALLATION."

Also...
Steve Wittman Accident

http://www.beginat.com/EAA724/newsltrs/96-02.htm
The February Sport Aviation has a summary of the findings of the NTSB
on the cause of the crash of Steve Wittman’s O&O Special last April.
To condense and simplify the article greatly, it appeared that Steve
painted the Poly-Fiber covering to the plywood wing with the nitrate
dope he had used for years with natural fiber wing coverings, instead
of with the approved Poly-Brush. The O&O Special flew for 10 years.
The NTSB believes that on the April trip back to Oshkosh, the fabric
in front of the right aileron finally debonded and ballooned up, which
caused the aileron and then both wings to flutter. The wings separated
from the aircraft. The article stresses the importance of using
components approved by the manufacturer when covering an aircraft.

MY POINT for you guys too dense to understand --
One is never too young, too old or too famous
to 'screw the pooch'.

screw+the+pooch...
buy the farm...not just a screw up...
the most major screw up...
like auger in...
ask a pilot

JFK JR, screwed the pooch!

screw+the+pooch....
to **** up


Barnyard BOb --

Both these guys are classic extremes of how dumb luck can rule!
Blanton survived in spite of himself while Wittman died because of
himself. - Barnyard BOb -

Not so fast, BoOb. Wittman was around 90 when he died. At the time he
covered his aircraft with polyester fabric and used dope to glue and finish
it, it was a popular thing to do. - jls
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

GEEZUS!!!!

Perhaps you did not see Dave Hyde's post regarding Wittman....

"AILERON-WING FLUTTER INDUCED BY
SEPARATION AT THE TRAILING EDGE OF AN UNBONDED
PORTION OF WING FABRIC AT AN AILERON WING STATION.
THE DEBONDING OF THE WING FABRIC WAS A RESULT OF
IMPROPER INSTALLATION."

Also...
Steve Wittman Accident

http://www.beginat.com/EAA724/newsltrs/96-02.htm
The February Sport Aviation has a summary of the findings of the NTSB
on the cause of the crash of Steve Wittman’s O&O Special last April.
To condense and simplify the article greatly, it appeared that Steve
painted the Poly-Fiber covering to the plywood wing with the nitrate
dope he had used for years with natural fiber wing coverings, instead
of with the approved Poly-Brush. The O&O Special flew for 10 years.
The NTSB believes that on the April trip back to Oshkosh, the fabric
in front of the right aileron finally debonded and ballooned up, which
caused the aileron and then both wings to flutter. The wings separated
from the aircraft. The article stresses the importance of using
components approved by the manufacturer when covering an aircraft.

MY POINT for you guys too dense to understand --
One is never too young, too old or too famous to
*NOT* 'screw the pooch'. --- correction

screw+the+pooch...
buy the farm...not just a screw up...
the most major screw up...
like auger in...
ask a pilot

JFK JR, screwed the pooch!

screw+the+pooch....
to **** up


Barnyard BOb --