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Old August 20th 05, 04:21 AM
Jose
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residents are afraid of jet noise. And they do have a point.


Ahhh... No they don't.
It's a point based on ignorance as today's small jets are quieter than
many older prop planes and pretty much on par with most of the newer
prop planes.


Well, it may be based on ignorance, but it is ignorance that I also
have, and I'm a pilot. I've never actually heard a microjet (and I
don't automatically believe what the manufacturers say)

Jose
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Old August 20th 05, 05:02 AM
Jay Honeck
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I've gently counseled about a dozen (including some with certificates)
that this might not be the avocation for them.


Can you give us some examples?

Were these vision problems? Hand-eye coordination lacking? Bad attitudes?

What was the cause of their failure?
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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Old August 20th 05, 02:14 PM
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Why do people stop flying?
I was just reading my acro-group postings and was reminded about why
many people drop out of flying completely... friends crashing and dying!
It is mostly associated with people with less than five years in the
sport. Their thoughts being that, "Wow! So-and-so has all these hours
and years of experience in aerobatics, yet, they still crashed! What
chance do I have?"
I personally know of one pilot, a young guy with small kids, who's
mentor crashed and burned. The never flew his Pitts again. I cannot
prove it, but I think his wife gave him an ultimatum. Although she had
her PPL, she never seemed really comfortable around the acro crowd.
Those that have been around longer know the causes (99.9% pilot error)
and are confident enough in their own abilites to not repeat the cause.

Another thing about the five years and out in acro flying.
Some people get into the sport for the thrill.
They have the time and money to get the training and buy the highest
performance acro mount of their choice. Did I mention that many of them
are low time (couple hundred hours)? They have gotten their PPL,
Instrument and Commercial and are looking around for their next aviation
challenge.
Acro is something that you either have a natural ability for, or you
spend many hours and years developing the talent. The ones that drop
after five years have plateaued out at Intermediate or Advanced. They
want to show that they have big ones, that they can compete in
Unlimited! That's why they bought the biggest, badest acro mount to
begin with, right?
They blew through Sportsman the first year, didn't always win, place or
show, but thought they flew well enough.
Second and maybe third year, they did okay in Intermediate. Again,
doesn't matter how well they did, they have an airplane that is capable
of flying the higher catagory maneuvers, so why not move up?
Advanced is where it starts to really get tough. Two or three years at
Advanced and they are not progressing or just botching every other
maneuver. It's getting embarassing! Time to get out. So they just
disappear, on to something that will give them their next big high or
ego boost.
By the way, if you haven't learned it yet, ego will kill you in aviation!
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Old August 20th 05, 07:10 PM
W P Dixon
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"john smith" wrote in message
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By the way, if you haven't learned it yet, ego will kill you in aviation!


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I know a few that have not gotten a grasp on that one yet. I guess the
same goes for pilots as it does for mechs! No one knows everything about
airplanes, Nobody! There are plenty of people that think they do on both
sides of that (pilots and mechs) . In 22 years I have sure seen the egos!
And alot of them, could it be that some of our attitudes make people not
continue with their pilot training? My wife came down to the airport with me
one day and MAN she just did not like the , as she put it..."holier than
thou" attitude given off by one of the fellows hanging around the flight
school.
Totally turned her off ! How many students have run into this type of
aviation personality, let's face it guys their are ALOT of them,...and said
what a bunch of jerkwads and never gone back? Does the self proclaimed " God
of the sky" egos play a role in drop outs?

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

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Old August 20th 05, 07:53 PM
Jay Honeck
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How many students have run into this type of
aviation personality, let's face it guys their are ALOT of them,...and said
what a bunch of jerkwads and never gone back? Does the self proclaimed " God
of the sky" egos play a role in drop outs?


Wow, that's a hot button topic. Without effort I can name several guys
at our airport that fit the "I am God" pilot description to a "T".

One in particular simply loves to let everyone know that his knowledge
of aviation, aircraft, and all things mechanical is superior to
everyone on the planet. (Actually, it may be, but that's beside the
point), and he has a particularly snide and nasty way of doing it.

Woe unto any new student who should stumble into this guy, because not
only will he come away with the attitude that all pilots are assh*les,
but he will be made to believe that the learning curve in aviation is
far steeper than it really needs to be.

The rest of us have learned to live with the guy (he actually does know
a lot, and -- if you can suffer through the attitude -- it's usually
possible to learn something around him), but it's not been easy.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

 




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