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Old November 20th 06, 02:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Andrew Sarangan[_1_]
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Mxsmanic wrote:
I'm still not clear on the exact procedure for position reports if you
are flying VFR over long distances without flight following. To whom
do you report your position, and what information should it include?
Which positions do you report and how often?


To FSS (Fligh****ch)

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Old November 20th 06, 02:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Steve Foley
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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Position reports are made to FSS radio, the same place VFR
flight plans are filed. The purpose is to reduce the size
of the area search and rescue would have to search should
you become lost or overdue.


Is FSS radio now Lockheed-Martin? Has the wait time increased as much as
800-WX-BRIEF?


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Old November 20th 06, 03:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:13:26 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:

Scott Post writes:

You do realize that a radio isn't required for VFR flight, right?


Yes, just as you surely realize that making position reports aids S&R
if you should happen to go down for any reason (if you have not
requested flight following from ATC). You do make position reports
when flying over long distances, don't you?


Nope, never have. Closest I've come is activating flight plans.

Ron Wanttaja
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Old November 20th 06, 03:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:15:03 +0000, Viperdoc wrote:

it reminds me of
my son at the age of four running around with a toy airplane making engine
noises. It may be normal for a child


Uh oh.

I do this w/my four year old. That is, I also run around with a toy
airplane making engine noises.

That's bad?

Of course, he knows what a takeoff and landing look like from "outside".
He knows about touch and goes and stop and goes. He knows how an airplane
turns (ie. the banking) and why. He knows how to flare with flair. He
knows the difference between a tail dragger and a nose dragger. He knows
the difference between airplanes with the prop outside the engine and the
prop inside the engine (I've spared him a discussion of ramjets {8^).

He's been flying with me numerous times. But always going somewhere (even
if just to a park at some other airport). Except just a couple of days
ago, he said he wanted to join me for some T&Gs.

So I opine that an adult running around with a toy airplane making engine
noises can be a fine thing indeed.

Laugh

- Andrew

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Old November 20th 06, 03:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:49:41 +0000, Steve Foley wrote:

Has the wait time increased as much as
800-WX-BRIEF?


Dunno. Here in NJ, a lot of the VORs are still "broken" (ie. no voice)
due to the sudden closing of Millville. It makes me wonder how they have,
or will have, handled other FSS closings.

How much time should it take to redirect these "circuits" (whatever form
they take) from the old Millville FSS to whomever would own the VORs
(Williamssomething?)?

I do know that calling for NOTAMs is a joke. We get someone
(Williamssomething) that doesn't "officially" receive the local NOTAMs).
They get a FAX each morning from the FSS that does get them.

It's actually very strange, and I don't pretend to understand it. The FSS
specialists to whom I've spoken about it don't either.

- Andrew

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Old November 20th 06, 04:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Steve Foley
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"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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I do know that calling for NOTAMs is a joke.


Tell me about it.

I called a few months back and ended up with someone in NY (I'm in
Massachusetts and normally get Bridgeport CT or Burlington VT). They didn't
have any local NOTAMS and suggested I call a local number for Bridgeport.


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Old November 20th 06, 04:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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I agree completely- the picture I had was of an adult male sitting in front
of a computer "talking" and making position reports with a game, and then
getting upset and asking why he couldn't make out a road on the pixelated
and smoothed out imagery of MSFS. This image is a little more troubling.

I let my now ten year old dial frequency changes on the radios, and let him
take the stick and fly for a while as well. (referring now to flying a real
airplane, and not MSFS, which he finds boring) He enjoys the participation.



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Old November 20th 06, 04:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Scott Post writes:

Surely you aren't planning to make position reports in your game?


I have already done so. That's what distinguishes simulation from
games.

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Old November 20th 06, 04:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Viperdoc writes:

I also can't imagine making imaginary calls to ATC and having conversations
with the computer generated voices in MSFS ...


The AI ATC in MSFS does not support position reports (or flight
following), except for a few limited circumstances (such as during an
approach).

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Old November 20th 06, 04:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Bob Gardner
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Uh... Andrew, you do realize that Flight Watch is a purely weather position
with no other responsibilities, right? Call FSS, yes, call Flight Watch, no.

Bob Gardner

"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
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Mxsmanic wrote:
I'm still not clear on the exact procedure for position reports if you
are flying VFR over long distances without flight following. To whom
do you report your position, and what information should it include?
Which positions do you report and how often?


To FSS (Fligh****ch)



 




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