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What does this have to do with anything? Humphrey's is a *PRIVATE*
(*NOT* funded by public money. *NOT* on public property. Isn't that what this is about?) concert venue that seats 1350 people. Tickets for shows are $45+. If you want dinner, add $52 per ticket. If you want to park near the venue, add $6. But it's moot. That property has a restaurant and hotel as well, which are the main attractions. |
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Doug Semler wrote: What does this have to do with anything? Humphrey's is a *PRIVATE* (*NOT* funded by public money. *NOT* on public property. Isn't that what this is about?) concert venue that seats 1350 people. Tickets for shows are $45+. If you want dinner, add $52 per ticket. If you want to park near the venue, add $6. But it's moot. That property has a restaurant and hotel as well, which are the main attractions. IIRC, SI was built by the SD port district, using harbor dredgings. I recall seeing signs posted by the port district in the park. JG |
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The lease expired on NI and its owned by the taxpayers of the PARK
District. Concert revenues are being used to develop the park. The executives of Charter One Bank support this with their sponsorship. "Resting between the horizon of Lake Michigan and the magnificent Chicago Skyline, Charter One Pavilion is located in the heart of Chicago's Museum Campus. The stunning surroundings make this a perfect place to spend a summer night, while enjoying live music from a variety of performers. Events range from concerts to family matinee events making Charter One Pavilion a great new destination for everyone" History moves on: buggy whips, US manufacturing jobs, Meigs....--JG |
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Granted, the property is public, leased to a private enterprise.
Actually, SI was mainly "built up" (it was already a natural shoal) by the dredging ops of the Navy during WWII (to allow SD Bay to take in carriers. The 1950's saw expansion of this dredging to bring the island 7 ft above mean high tide. But what does this have to do with the price of tea in China? The original thread was about how "Meigs now enjoyed by all." You parallelled the gov't 'rezoning' Meigs as a concert venue with SI. SI is not a really good parallel...The land is leased by the port authority to various hotels, eateries, and private marinas. What makes you think that (aside from rent and use taxes) that San Diego sees any money from what happens at a concert venue? What the leasees do with the land is the lesee's business (subject to the lease restrictions/zoning/etc, of course). The only monies that the Port district of San Diego receives from the activities on the island a Lease (OK, I admit, there's probably some good money on prime property made here. However, with the City Attorney looking into the terms of the more than 600 leases, I would not be surprised if there weren't some bad dealings here....) Sales Tax revenues (IIRC 7.25% in city of SD) TOT revenues (10.5% in city of SD) (This is probably why there are mostly hotels on the island) I don't know if there is any tax on moorings in the various marinas. San Diego does not see one penny (aside from sales tax and possibly permit fees...which actually could be waived as one of the terms of the lease!) of revenue from the concerts in a private venue like Humprhy's. That'd be like saying that the City of LA started realizing money from the concerts put on at the House of Blues. |
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Doug Semler wrote: Granted, the property is public, leased to a private enterprise. Actually, SI was mainly "built up" (it was already a natural shoal) by the dredging ops of the Navy during WWII (to allow SD Bay to take in carriers. The 1950's saw expansion of this dredging to bring the island 7 ft above mean high tide. But what does this have to do with the price of tea in China? The original thread was about how "Meigs now enjoyed by all." You parallelled the gov't 'rezoning' Meigs as a concert venue with SI. SI is not a really good parallel...The land is leased by the port authority to various hotels, eateries, and private marinas. SI and Meigs are similiar: both are landfills by government agencies, and both are near urban centers. I expressed the opinion that SI would make a good model for Northerly Island development. San Diego does not see one penny (aside from sales tax and possibly permit fees...which actually could be waived as one of the terms of the lease!) of revenue from the concerts in a private venue like Humprhy's. That'd be like saying that the City of LA started realizing money from the concerts put on at the House of Blues. I would expect property tax collection on the lesee's private buildings. Also, the Greek Theatre and Hollywood Bowl are gov. owned, LA city or county. JG |
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