Emergency landing today Troutdale, OR

Mxsmanic wrote:
Ron Wanttaja writes:

Newly purchased homebuilt that was constructed by someone else. A
Harmon Rocket, I believe.

Still, the same principles apply: A new aircraft shouldn't have engine
trouble. If the pilot paid to have it constructed, the constructor
owes him something.

You are making assuptions again that it was some problem with the aircraft
and not the operator or a third party like a fuel dealer.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Ron Wanttaja writes:

Newly purchased homebuilt that was constructed by someone else. A Harmon
Rocket, I believe.

Still, the same principles apply: A new aircraft shouldn't have engine
trouble. If the pilot paid to have it constructed, the constructor
owes him something.



You're in so far over your head and you don't even know it.

Mxsmanic wrote:
This is a new aircraft and the engine fails on the first flight?
Something is not right.

The aircraft was built in 1997. The reporter was wrong to call it a brand-
new plane. It was recently purchased by the latest owner.

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

You are making assuptions again that it was some problem with the aircraft
and not the operator or a third party like a fuel dealer.

Usually, when an engine starts sputtering, it's an engine problem. GA
aircraft are terribly prone to this, unfortunately.

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Jim Logajan writes:

The aircraft was built in 1997. The reporter was wrong to call it a brand-
new plane. It was recently purchased by the latest owner.

Ah. That makes much more sense.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Usually, when an engine starts sputtering, it's an engine problem.

LOL.
Reminds me of those bowling towels with the 10 most frequently used
excuses why you didn't get a strike. They should make one with the 10
most frequent reasons why a piston engine starts sputtering, many
originating elsewhere.

"Viperdoc" wrote in message
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The engine may have quit, but there are a lot of reasons for this,
especially things like running out of gas, or not generally knowing the
fuel systems. It wouldn't necessarily need to have been a problem
intrinsically with the engine itself.

Since the plane was seemingly intact, the NTSB investigation should
provide some meaningful information.

It is very rare for two experimental, even of like makes/models, to have
identical systems, so the NTSB doesn't go to great lengths to investigate
experimental/homebuilt accidents unless there was a fatality. It isn't like
there are a thousand identical aircraft out there with the same undiscovered
problem lurking around just waiting to bite the owner.

The new owner of this aircraft is a fellow named Rick Gray. Presumably he
understands the systems on these aircraft, since he built an Oshkosh award
winning RV-6 some years back.

KB

A sputtering engine could be one about to run out of fuel..
in that case.. it is not the engines fault
it could be running out of fuel because the fuel tanks are full but either a
filter is blocked
or the fuel tank vent is blocked causing the tank to create a vacum and not
allow full flow into the fuel line

many many things.. and it's not the engine.. and maybe
not the pilots fault

BT

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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writes:

What makes you think that engine trouble was the cause of this
incident?

A sputtering engine is not likely to be a healthy engine. Unless the
pilot did something stupid, of course (or failed to do something
smart).

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spoken from someone who only flies simulators..

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

You are making assuptions again that it was some problem with the
aircraft
and not the operator or a third party like a fuel dealer.

Usually, when an engine starts sputtering, it's an engine problem. GA
aircraft are terribly prone to this, unfortunately.

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BT wrote:
spoken from someone who only flies simulators..

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

You are making assuptions again that it was some problem with the
aircraft
and not the operator or a third party like a fuel dealer.
Usually, when an engine starts sputtering, it's an engine problem. GA
aircraft are terribly prone to this, unfortunately.

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When he has a sputtering engine it followed by a BSOD