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Happy Dog wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message Thomas Borchert wrote: Matt, Go back and read the thread. I did. I fail to see what relevant context I left out. You claimed the Dept of Homeland Security has been succesful in preventing terrorist attacks. I asked for proof. Well, we haven't had an attack since 9/11 on American soil and there is a fair bit of evidence that the terrorists haven't stopped trying. That is effective enough for me. Post the evidence that an attack has been thwarted. But for that, your observation that there have been no terrorist attacks is as useless as claiming that the sun rises each day because you ask it to. If body cavity searches are mandated for air pax, you OK with that? Just curious. Post evidence that DHS has been ineffective. Matt |
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Happy Dog wrote:
"sfb" wrote in message news:15ZSe.3328$Di4.558@trnddc07... We all should be willing to accept the government's word that attacks have been thwarted. Public disclosure of how the intelligence was gathered only helps the bad guys. I hope this is a joke. Ask anyone with a knee or hip prosthesis about what it takes to get through airport security. They deserve it. Ditto for old ladies in wheel chairs. I feel safer. I kind of knew that something that musn't be disclosed to the public is happening at security checkpoints. It makes sense now. Listen, git, nobody's taking over an airplane again. It didn't even work on the fourth (maybe more) plane. It took less than an hour for *citizens* to figure out what was happening, devise a plan and act. Frisking your granny isn't going to accomplish what they claim. I agree, unfortunately, our misguided civil rights activists think that profiling is illegal, even though it would be much more effective and would spare the grannies of the world ... until a granny attempts to bring a bomb onto an airplane. Matt |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... Happy Dog wrote: I agree, unfortunately, our misguided civil rights activists think that profiling is illegal, even though it would be much more effective and would spare the grannies of the world ... until a granny attempts to bring a bomb onto an airplane. http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3828 The Security Pretext: An Examination of the Growth of Federal Police Agencies by Melanie Scarborough Melanie Scarborough writes a monthly column for the Washington Post. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Since the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, bureaucrats and special interest groups have been busy repackaging everything from peanut subsidies to steel protectionism under the rubric of "national security." Federal law enforcement agencies have also been expanding their power in the name of combating terrorism, whether or not such expansion has anything to do with enhancing security. One safeguard that exists to prevent such abuse is congressional oversight, but too many members of Congress are too often reluctant to challenge law enforcement officials. For freedom to prevail in the age of terrorism, three things are essential. First, government officials must take a sober look at the potential risk and recognize that there is no reason to panic and act rashly. Second, Congress must stop federal police agencies from acting arbitrarily. Before imposing costly and restrictive security measures that inconvenience thousands of people, police agencies ought to be required to produce cost-benefit analyses. Third, government officials must demonstrate courage rather than give in to their fears. Radical Islamic terrorists are not the first enemy that America has faced. British troops burned the White House in 1814, the Japanese navy launched a surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, and the Soviet Union deployed hundreds of nuclear missiles that targeted American cities. If policymakers are serious about defending our freedom and our way of life, they must wage this war without discarding our traditional constitutional framework of limited government. Full Text of Briefing Papers no. 94 (PDF, 163 KB) |
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message ... "Doof" wrote in message to the inane mean-spirited ravings of bigots. What are "quite" posters? Are they related to "quiet" posters? Does that mean they type gently on the keys so as to keep the noise down? They turn off the key clickers. The what? He calls himself "Doof". What do you expect. |
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"Doof" wrote in message ... "TL" wrote in message ... Tom Fleischman wrote: Most of the posters you mention are demonstrably bigoted, narrow-minded, and misguided. Their posts serve well to demonstrate just how disconnected from reality some people can be. I am impressed by the recent emergence of previously quite posters who, over the past few days, have effectively refuted the inane ravings of a handful of bigoted talking heads. Your voice of reason Voice of reason? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Do you even have hint of a clue what the word means? Talk about full of it: World Record there. So speaks the "Doof". |
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bigot
n : a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own "JH" == Jay Honeck writes: JH You arrogant fool. You have NO idea what the inner cities are JH like, and you have NO right to call me "racist." Touched a nerve, eh? We're getting near the truth. I lived in Oakland for a year. That was enough for me; I didn't need 7 years to figure out that West Oakland wasn't good for white boys. I doubt you're an overt racist, but your grotesque stereotyping of just about every group that comes across these newsgroups (French, Europeans, poor, liberals, conservatives, you-name-it), combined with your evident lack of knowledge of cultural groups, science, economics, almost everything you write about, explains but does not excuse your bigotry. You embody some of the worst this country has to offer: the ignorant-and-proud-of-it, our-way-is-best attitude which our highest leadership is full of. That, and no demonstration of any empathy for anyone, not in the current disaster, not in the past. You are a sad creature. |
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Happy,
We all should be willing to accept the government's word that attacks have been thwarted. Public disclosure of how the intelligence was gathered only helps the bad guys. I hope this is a joke. You can be sure it's not. The trust that some people have in their government is boundless. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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"Earl Grieda"
"Matt Barrow" wrote in message ... "Doof" wrote in message to the inane mean-spirited ravings of bigots. What are "quite" posters? Are they related to "quiet" posters? Does that mean they type gently on the keys so as to keep the noise down? They turn off the key clickers. The what? He calls himself "Doof". What do you expect. Old IBM mainframe keyboards often had a solenoid that acted as a key clicker and warning buzzer. moo |
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"Matt Whiting"
Post the evidence that an attack has been thwarted. But for that, your observation that there have been no terrorist attacks is as useless as claiming that the sun rises each day because you ask it to. If body cavity searches are mandated for air pax, you OK with that? Just curious. Post evidence that DHS has been ineffective. I can't and shouldn't have to. Just like I can't prove that the DEA is ineffective at limiting illegal substance abuse. They spend *billions* and require ever more restrictions on freedom by claiming that they are performing a sorely needed service. They use fear and hype to convince the idiot majority that they should be able to act almost at whim. At what point do *you* say that the ****ing you're taking isn't worth the one you're getting? moo |
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"sfb" wrote in message news:15ZSe.3328$Di4.558@trnddc07... We all should be willing to accept the government's word that attacks have been thwarted. We should never be willing to accept anything the government says. |
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