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"Bob Noel" wrote in message ... In article GUCec.125100$JO3.82648@attbi_s04, Newps wrote: Alex wrote: Most would rather be poor down here, thank you. Yeah, right. A lot of people have great fondness for their native land. ....but they're still here. |
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In article , Alex wrote:
I live in a much poorer country than Mexico, and I know very few people who would like to live in the US. Most would rather be poor down here, thank you. Dangle a Green Card in front of them, and see how fast they suddenly change their minds. A lot of people are very US-hostile until someone dangles either an H-1 visa or green card in front of them. -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
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Dylan Smith wrote in message ...
In article , Alex wrote: I live in a much poorer country than Mexico, and I know very few people who would like to live in the US. Most would rather be poor down here, thank you. Dangle a Green Card in front of them, and see how fast they suddenly change their minds. A lot of people are very US-hostile until someone dangles either an H-1 visa or green card in front of them. I speak for myself and the people I know. I've been in the US and I have family and friends there, so I know what it would be like. I wouldn't live there, no matter what. I would never rise my child there. For whom do you speak, Dylan? |
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote:
"Bob Noel" wrote: wrote: Alex wrote: Most would rather be poor down here, thank you. Yeah, right. A lot of people have great fondness for their native land. ...but they're still here. Wow! All this time I thougth most people in this planet lived in countries other than the US... What an idiot! Thanks, Tom, for opening my eyes to the reality: All the people in the world want to live in the US so badly that the only ones that don't are the poor souls who couldn't affort to get to the US or who died trying! It may shock you, Tom, but there are quite a lot of people happily living in the rest of the world. The US may be a rich country, it may be the most powerful country, but by no means the best or most desirable to live in. I can accept that people with low or no incomes and little chance to improve would like to move to a better country, but that is hardly the only consideration when deciding to migrate. Guess what, Tom: money is not the only factor. I would never live there, no matter how bad the economy in my country goes. And believe me, the economy in my country has gone incredibly bad the last couple of years. Most people I know lost the savings of their lives, we can no longer afford buying computers or videocameras or making a trip to Europe. Quite a lot of people decided they had enough and emigrated. Most went to Spain, some to Canada, some to the US. Of course language is a factor for choosing Spain, but most educated people here speak english and you don't really need english to live in, say, Miami. Also, my sister works with refugees in Austria, mostly people from the east block. Almost 95% of them are rejected by the Austrian government, and they have to go back and face whatever they were running from. So you see, Austria is similar to the US in that huge numbers of people want to live there and the natives want them out. But these people don't choose Austria because it is so beautifull or because the living standard is so high. They don't really choose Austria: it just happens to be the first EU country they step into, because it is the nearest. Any EU country would do. I don't want to hurt your feelings, Tom, but the US is not the prefered emigrant destination. It just happens to be near poor countries. |
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"Alex" wrote in message om... "Tom Sixkiller" wrote: "Bob Noel" wrote: wrote: Alex wrote: Most would rather be poor down here, thank you. Yeah, right. A lot of people have great fondness for their native land. ...but they're still here. Wow! All this time I thougth most people in this planet lived in countries other than the US... What an idiot! Thanks, Tom, for opening my eyes to the reality: All the people in the world want to live in the US so badly that the only ones that don't are the poor souls who couldn't affort to get to the US or who died trying! It may shock you, Tom, but there are quite a lot of people happily living in the rest of the world. The US may be a rich country, it may be the most powerful country, but by no means the best or most desirable to live in. I can accept that people with low or no incomes and little chance to improve would like to move to a better country, but that is hardly the only consideration when deciding to migrate. Guess what, Tom: money is not the only factor. I would never live there, no matter how bad the economy in my country goes. And believe me, the economy in my country has gone incredibly bad the last couple of years. Most people I know lost the savings of their lives, we can no longer afford buying computers or videocameras or making a trip to Europe. Quite a lot of people decided they had enough and emigrated. Most went to Spain, some to Canada, some to the US. Of course language is a factor for choosing Spain, but most educated people here speak english and you don't really need english to live in, say, Miami. Also, my sister works with refugees in Austria, mostly people from the east block. Almost 95% of them are rejected by the Austrian government, and they have to go back and face whatever they were running from. So you see, Austria is similar to the US in that huge numbers of people want to live there and the natives want them out. But these people don't choose Austria because it is so beautifull or because the living standard is so high. They don't really choose Austria: it just happens to be the first EU country they step into, because it is the nearest. Any EU country would do. I don't want to hurt your feelings, Tom, but the US is not the prefered emigrant destination. It just happens to be near poor countries. Yeh, countries ripped off by US corporates |
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ...
Canada is doing as good as America's "underclass". We have to put of guard towers around our borders to keep people OUT. Yeah...the envy is that apparent. Yeah, you must be right. Canada sucks. Please keep out. Tien PP-MEI Montreal (CANADA) |
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"TD" wrote in message m... "Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ... Canada is doing as good as America's "underclass". We have to put of guard towers around our borders to keep people OUT. Yeah...the envy is that apparent. Yeah, you must be right. Canada sucks. Please keep out. Tien PP-MEI Montreal (CANADA) |
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"TD" wrote in message m... "Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ... Canada is doing as good as America's "underclass". We have to put of guard towers around our borders to keep people OUT. Yeah...the envy is that apparent. Yeah, you must be right. Canada sucks. Please keep out. Tien PP-MEI Montreal (CANADA) Oh, PWWWTTTT, ya hockey puck!! Eh? |
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