(Photo) Su-24 Flanker or MiG-23/MiG-27?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...T2008080802320

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ry/2008/08/08/
GA2008080802276.html?sid=ST2008080802320

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. I saw reports of Su-24s
in the area before but this is the first photo I've seen from this
fighting that looks like one.

On 10 Aug, 17:27, "David E. Powell" wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/08/08/GA200...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ry/2008/08/08/
GA2008080802276.html?sid=ST2008080802320

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. I saw reports of Su-24s
in the area before but this is the first photo I've seen from this
fighting that looks like one.

Fencer not Flanker:-) It seems to have that slightly upturned nose of
the Su24

Guy

"David E. Powell" wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...T2008080802320

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. [...]

It looks more like an SU-24 Fencer
(http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/su-24.htm).
Distinguishing marks are the radome, vertical stab, and the
external fuel tank mounting.
--
George Ruch
"Is there life in Clovis after Clovis Man?"

"George Ruch" wrote in message
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"David E. Powell" wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...T2008080802320

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. [...]

It looks more like an SU-24 Fencer
(http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/su-24.htm).
Distinguishing marks are the radome, vertical stab, and the
external fuel tank mounting.

Definitely FENCER: single vert stab and variable geometry, no deep ventral
strake, the latter ruling out FLOGGER. The thought of regiments of these
flying with ARMs kept us air defenders in West Germany awake at night as we
updated our estimates and recalculated our ammo expenditure rates.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

On 10 Aug, 17:27, "David E. Powell" wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/08/08/GA200...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ry/2008/08/08/
GA2008080802276.html?sid=ST2008080802320

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. I saw reports of Su-24s
in the area before but this is the first photo I've seen from this
fighting that looks like one.

Su-24 Fencer E. It is the dedicated recce variant.

TJ

On 10 Aug, 17:27, "David E. Powell" wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/08/08/GA200...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ry/2008/08/08/
GA2008080802276.html?sid=ST2008080802320

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. I saw reports of Su-24s
in the area before but this is the first photo I've seen from this
fighting that looks like one.

Sorry, forgot to add Su-24MR.

TJ

On 10 Aug, 17:27, "David E. Powell" wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/08/08/GA200...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ry/2008/08/08/
GA2008080802276.html?sid=ST2008080802320

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. I saw reports of Su-24s
in the area before but this is the first photo I've seen from this
fighting that looks like one.

The Russians retired the MiG-23/27 Flogger during the 1990s.

TJ

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On 10 Aug, 17:27, "David E. Powell" wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/08/08/GA200...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ry/2008/08/08/
GA2008080802276.html?sid=ST2008080802320

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. I saw reports of Su-24s
in the area before but this is the first photo I've seen from this
fighting that looks like one.

Su-24 Fencer E. It is the dedicated recce variant.

TJ

Thank you both, I've looked several times at that picture and failed to
place it.

The nose on this one looks a bit longer than on the data in my book--is
that a difference in this variant from early ones?

On 10 Aug, 21:53, "Peter A. Stoll"
wrote:
TJ wrote in news:0f878b65-e29f-4579-8e2c-fcc199819d73@
34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

On 10 Aug, 17:27, "David E. Powell" wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/08/08/GA200...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ry/2008/08/08/
GA2008080802276.html?sid=ST2008080802320

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. I saw reports of Su-24s
in the area before but this is the first photo I've seen from this
fighting that looks like one.

Su-24 Fencer E. It is the dedicated recce variant.

TJ

Thank you both, I've looked several times at that picture and failed to
place it.

The nose on this one looks a bit longer than on the data in my book--is
that a difference in this variant from early ones?

Apologies. I've just had another look at it by blowing up the image.
It isn't an Su-24MR, but a Su-24M Fencer D. This is the strike
version. I was thinking that the pod under the wing was the pod
carried by the Su-24MR. The 'pod' on the wing pylon is a munition. The
Su-24MR Fencer E has a shortened nose.

TJ

On Aug 10, 1:56*pm, "Andrew Chaplin"
wrote:
"George Ruch" wrote in message

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"David E. Powell" wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/08/08/GA200....

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. [...]

It looks more like an SU-24 Fencer
(http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/su-24.htm).
Distinguishing marks are the radome, vertical stab, and the
external fuel tank mounting.

Definitely FENCER: single vert stab and variable geometry, no deep ventral
strake, the latter ruling out FLOGGER. The thought of regiments of these
flying with ARMs kept us air defenders in West Germany awake at night as we
updated our estimates and recalculated our ammo expenditure rates.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

Thank you guys. I'm sorry, I got so caught in the moment I confused my
NATO designations :*(

* = Blush

Recon Fencer then? For stuff like the long strikes into certain areas
I could see them being used.

Has a lot of attack missions it can be configured for, everything from
naval attack to Maverick-type missiles to laser guided I am guessing.
Wonder if the Russians have some sort of JDAM type unit tied into
their GLONASS system or even GPS?