(Photo) Su-24 Flanker or MiG-23/MiG-27?

should be Recon Fencer

Yuri

On Aug 10, 1:56*pm, "Andrew Chaplin"
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"George Ruch" wrote in message

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"David E. Powell" wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/08/08/GA200....

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. [...]

It looks more like anSU-24Fencer
(http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/su-24.htm).
Distinguishing marks are the radome, vertical stab, and the
external fuel tank mounting.

Definitely FENCER: single vert stab and variable geometry, no deep ventral
strake, the latter ruling out FLOGGER. The thought of regiments of these
flying with ARMs kept us air defenders in West Germany awake at night as we
updated our estimates and recalculated our ammo expenditure rates.

Thank you.

My main knowledge of the Su-24 came from playing "Harpoon" where I
found it to be a great "go to" plane for just about any kind of attack
mission. Want to go after land targets? Hang iron or guided bombs and
the Fencer is your plane. Want to go after ships? Hang air to ground
or anti ship missiles and the Fencer is your plane. Want to shoot at
just about anything else? Load whatever you want from a pretty large
catalog, and the Fencer is still your plane.

That was all for a game, and you have much more knowledge of the type
than I do.

I got into this, actually, after the fall of the Berlin wall, so I
sort of wondered if the Russians had held on to any of their stocks of
older weapons to use against terrorists, etc. where the new stuff
might not be needed. I guess they have plenty of the newer ones now,
though.

the Su-24 just always struck me as am impressive machine.

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SU-24 = F-111 wannabe

150flivver wrote:
SU-24 = F-111 wannabe

That's why F-111 is still in service and Su-24 has been long-retired.
Oh, wait a minute...

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Clark wrote:
Venik wrote in
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150flivver wrote:
SU-24 = F-111 wannabe
That's why F-111 is still in service and Su-24 has been long-retired.
Oh, wait a minute...

You do realize the F-111 is still in service...



So is MiG-17. That's not the point.

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"Clark" wrote in message
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Venik wrote in
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150flivver wrote:
SU-24 = F-111 wannabe

That's why F-111 is still in service and Su-24 has been long-retired.
Oh, wait a minute...

You do realize the F-111 is still in service...

Where...I think you're wrong.

Tex Houston

"Tex Houston" wrote in news:4
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"Clark" wrote in message
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You do realize the F-111 is still in service...

Where...I think you're wrong.

Tex Houston

Was Australia until very recently--and, I think, has started to retire
ships in 2007 with all currently scheduled out in 2010.

Standing by for correction.

SU-24 = F-111
sure, it has exactly the same role

still in use, being (very) slowly replaced by Su-34

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-34

Yuri

it could be still in (limited) service within RAAF

Aussies are you there ? reply, please

Yuri

On 13 Aug, 12:13, Clark wrote:
Venik wrote in news:-
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Clark wrote:
Venik wrote in
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150flivver wrote:
SU-24 = F-111 wannabe
That's why F-111 is still in service and Su-24 has been long-retired.
Oh, wait a minute...

You do realize the F-111 is still in service...

So is MiG-17. That's not the point.

Let's see here now, you tried to imply that the F-111 isn't in service and
then say the fact that it's still in service isn't the point. Perhaps you
should attempt to clarify your argument. I'd suggest that you try to make a
rational point rather than a self-conflicted point.

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there should be a "sig" here

Venik hasn't a clue about military aircraft. He freely admitted that
back in 1999 with his rants on NATO losses.

Check out his mindset when trying to justify to himself and convince
others about huge NATO losses.

Really worth a read if you want a laugh.

http://www.aeronautics.ru/natodownfaq.htm

TJ