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AUSTRALIAN SCANDAL FROM GLIDING INTERNATIONAL MARCH 2020 ISSUE



 
 
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Old March 3rd 20, 09:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Monday, 2 March 2020 21:05:34 UTC+2, Roy B. wrote:

To suggest that a new member of a team should have disregarded their Captain's judgment and "call out" (in some unspecified way) what the team was doing strikes me as both harsh and unrealistic.


[BS intensifies]

So cheating is kind of ok if it's done by your team captain and you are kind of new to this game and don't kind of have courage to speak up. Well I guess that paragraph should be added to Annex A right away then. Sometimes it's just hard to believe what I'm reading here.
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Old March 3rd 20, 10:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I wasn't there, but I can almost guarantee you that the other countries were listening in on the Aussie frequency. So they had the same info.
UNLESS the Aussies were frequency hopping, that would make it pre-meditated and the Aussies should be penalized
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Old March 3rd 20, 01:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Well the whole situation is “ premeditated”. When racing turned into who could scam the most information (flarm location tracking, ground/managment relayed information, onboard active wx etc), racing became a different test; not one of pilot against pilot and pilot reading the wx, to one of information managment and who has the best information systems. One of the reasons many great fliers lost interest in this aspect of the sport.. In the end Sara still kicked all their butts doing it the Streideck way; fast efficient self knowledgable flying!!
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Old March 3rd 20, 04:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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What would make you "almost guarantee" that everyone would be listening
to the Aussie frequency?* Are the Aussies known to always cheat?* That's
not been my experience having made five trips to that wonderful
country.* Do you think it was "home team advantage" and therefore
everyone monitors the home team, no matter in which country the contest
is held?

Suck it up people.* You got caught, got your pee pees whacked
(figuratively).* Move on...

On 3/3/2020 3:54 AM, wrote:
I wasn't there, but I can almost guarantee you that the other countries were listening in on the Aussie frequency. So they had the same info.
UNLESS the Aussies were frequency hopping, that would make it pre-meditated and the Aussies should be penalized


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Dan, 5J
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Old March 3rd 20, 05:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, March 3, 2020 at 11:06:07 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
What would make you "almost guarantee" that everyone would be listening
to the Aussie frequency?* Are the Aussies known to always cheat?* That's
not been my experience having made five trips to that wonderful
country.* Do you think it was "home team advantage" and therefore
everyone monitors the home team, no matter in which country the contest
is held?

Suck it up people.* You got caught, got your pee pees whacked
(figuratively).* Move on...

On 3/3/2020 3:54 AM,
I wasn't there, but I can almost guarantee you that the other countries were listening in on the Aussie frequency. So they had the same info.
UNLESS the Aussies were frequency hopping, that would make it pre-meditated and the Aussies should be penalized


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Dan, 5J


When I flew in WGC my team captain(wife Dianne) had 3 radios going all the time.
It was very helpful to hear stuff like "our friends are going in 5 minutes".. Now with sophisticated tracking, much more information can be made available, when permitted. She may have been able to tell us when they were going, but could not tell us where they were.
Additionally, there are other ways to communicate besides "public" radio.
FWIW
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Old March 4th 20, 12:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 18:06:07 UTC+2, Dan Marotta wrote:
What would make you "almost guarantee" that everyone would be listening
to the Aussie frequency?* Are the Aussies known to always cheat?* That's
not been my experience having made five trips to that wonderful
country.* Do you think it was "home team advantage" and therefore
everyone monitors the home team, no matter in which country the contest
is held?

Suck it up people.* You got caught, got your pee pees whacked
(figuratively).* Move on...

On 3/3/2020 3:54 AM, wrote:
I wasn't there, but I can almost guarantee you that the other countries were listening in on the Aussie frequency. So they had the same info.
UNLESS the Aussies were frequency hopping, that would make it pre-meditated and the Aussies should be penalized


--
Dan, 5J


Not at all - But at a WGC you will see ground crews monitoring 4 or 5 different frequencies.
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Old March 3rd 20, 03:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 6:54:35 PM UTC-5, johnhamish wrote:
1. The World Women's Gliding Championship staged at Lake Keepit in Australia concluded on January 17 leaving a rather nasty taste in the mouths of 9 of the 10 competing countries.

2 A collective protest from team managers saw the International Jury penalise all Australian pilots with 250 points each, materially affecting the final placings in the championships.

3. The Gliding Federation of Australia appointed a legal/knowledgeable pilot to carry out an investigation of their behalf. The 16 page report has been released with the conclusion that an appeal against the Jury decision is unlikely to be successful and so now world gliding has to wait for any advancement on the Australian policy or whether the situation is being accepted and they now move on. Officially Australia has penalised the officials involved with a severe five year restriction on activities.

4. Well meaning Australian pilots have been extremely vocal on their web site with a multitude of postings, some particularly nasty.

5. Since January 17, Gliding International has recorded all events, all emails, all reports and the adjudicators analysis. Gliding International having followed the unprecedented scene covers it in considerable detail, highlighting some of the emails posted. The jury report and the investigators report are in our 18 page article on the episode. The magazine is totally non judgmental on events. Only reporting known facts.

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they cheated got caught and complain? pathetic.
 




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