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Old March 28th 05, 01:44 PM
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:31:09 -0500, Peter Clark
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http://www.ntsb.gov/O_n_O/docs/AVIATION/3935.PDF




That's the one.

Many thanks.


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Old March 28th 05, 02:28 PM
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You do realize that you have posted this gentleman's name and social
security number on the Internet in violation of federal law?



"Peter Clark" wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:33:36 GMT, wrote:

Does anyone have a copy of the NTSB report which was posted a while
back concerning the guy who launched IFR in IMC in uncontrolled
airspace into VMC above and was dinged for "careless and negligent"?


http://www.ntsb.gov/O_n_O/docs/AVIATION/3935.PDF ?



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Old March 28th 05, 02:45 PM
Dave S
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You might want to call the NTSB and let them know their offense.. They
are the ones who would be in violation of any such statute, not a
separate individual who posts a LINK to said page.

Dave

OtisWinslow wrote:
You do realize that you have posted this gentleman's name and social
security number on the Internet in violation of federal law?



"Peter Clark" wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:33:36 GMT, wrote:


Does anyone have a copy of the NTSB report which was posted a while
back concerning the guy who launched IFR in IMC in uncontrolled
airspace into VMC above and was dinged for "careless and negligent"?


http://www.ntsb.gov/O_n_O/docs/AVIATION/3935.PDF ?





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Old March 28th 05, 02:52 PM
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Let's be honest about the facts.
According to the report, he launched into IMC without a release.
That's a NO-NO!

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Does anyone have a copy of the NTSB report which was posted a while
back concerning the guy who launched IFR in IMC in uncontrolled
airspace into VMC above and was dinged for "careless and negligent"?


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Old March 28th 05, 03:23 PM
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OtisWinslow wrote:
You do realize that you have posted this gentleman's name and social
security number on the Internet in violation of federal law?


Are you refering to the Personal Privacy Act (IIRC 5USC550(b))? If so,
this regulates organizations which MAINTAIN A DATABASE containing
personal information. The poster didn't violate it and it's not clear
that publishing individual records from such a database does.
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Old March 28th 05, 04:03 PM
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Gee, I don't see any name or ssn.

I see a URL where his name and ss might exist, and if it does, it was
put there by the same federal government that forbids it.

Of course, it relates to a situation where a pilot closely followed a
federal regulation and was busted for doing so, so maybe we are all
simply rattling around in the same rabbit hole.





On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:28:15 GMT, "OtisWinslow"
wrote:

You do realize that you have posted this gentleman's name and social
security number on the Internet in violation of federal law?



"Peter Clark" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:33:36 GMT, wrote:

Does anyone have a copy of the NTSB report which was posted a while
back concerning the guy who launched IFR in IMC in uncontrolled
airspace into VMC above and was dinged for "careless and negligent"?


http://www.ntsb.gov/O_n_O/docs/AVIATION/3935.PDF ?



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Old March 28th 05, 04:06 PM
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You are wrong - it is NOT a no-no.

The NTSB report acknowledges as such. He was held in violation of the
catch-all "careless and negligent", which only exists so that the FAA
can bust pilots when they haven't really violated a regulation.




On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:52:35 GMT, jsmith wrote:

Let's be honest about the facts.
According to the report, he launched into IMC without a release.
That's a NO-NO!

wrote:
Does anyone have a copy of the NTSB report which was posted a while
back concerning the guy who launched IFR in IMC in uncontrolled
airspace into VMC above and was dinged for "careless and negligent"?


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Old March 28th 05, 04:13 PM
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Can someone explain to me why wasn't he granted the clearance into
KIND? Was it because of traffic flow or because of the weather at
KIND? According to the decision it was both, but I was unaware that
ATC wouldn't grant you a clearance if the destination field was below
minimums as a part 91 flight.

Obviously you'd still need fuel on board to comply with an alternate
minimums, etc. As a part 91 flight he could still attempt to execute
the approach if the field was below minimums, while air carrier flights
wouldn't have been able to, correct?

I'm not asking about the intelligence of doing such things, obviously,
but rather the mechanisms for ATC to deny you a clearance.

 




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