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Hellfire Replacement
It looks like a replacement for the Hellfire missile is in the works.
See: http://aviationnow.com/avnow/news/ch...s/jcm03263.xml |
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"Eric Moore" wrote in message
om It looks like a replacement for the Hellfire missile is in the works. See: http://aviationnow.com/avnow/news/ch....jsp?id=news/j cm03263.xml Cool stuff. I wonder if it will also replace Brimstone, the British Hellfire they've had problems* with. *due to missile exhaust debris striking the vertical stabilizer during launch. -- http://www.delversdungeon.dragonsfoot.org Remove the X's in my email address to respond. "Damn you Silvey, and your endless fortunes." - Stephen Weir I hate furries. |
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Bill Silvey wrote: Cool stuff. I wonder if it will also replace Brimstone, the British Hellfire they've had problems* with. I don't think so, because it only looks like a Hellfire. But since the article mentiones Hornets, I think it's a given the US won't buy Brimstone. *due to missile exhaust debris striking the vertical stabilizer during launch. And I've not heard of any launch problems with it. Which aircraft type is this supposed to have happened on? (Are you perhaps thinking of the Air to Air Starstreak test launch(es) from Apache helicopters? (British Apaches will use Hellfire, not Brimstone.)) http://www.mod.uk/dpa/projects/Brimstone.htm http://www.eurofighter.starstreak.net/common/AG/brimstone.html -- Urban Fredriksson http://www.canit.se/%7Egriffon/ A king and an elephant were sitting in a bathtub. The king said, "pass the soap" and the elephant said, "No soap, radio!" |
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Some other European missiles under development:
http://www.ets-news.com/guided_weap.htm BTW, isn't the Brimstone just a Hellfire copy? Rob |
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"robert arndt" wrote in message om... Some other European missiles under development: http://www.ets-news.com/guided_weap.htm BTW, isn't the Brimstone just a Hellfire copy? No its a derivative rather than a copy, basically it has a more advanced millimetre wave radar seeker, can be pre-programmed with targetting and engagement information. Additionally its better suited to fast jet launch than is hellfire. Keith |
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Peter Kemp wrote: On 1 Jul 2003 06:50:23 -0700, (tedster) wrote: Apparently the debris problem on the Apaches was caused by a plug covering the Hellfire motor not vaporising on firing. This could damage the stabilizer. Don't know why this should have affected the UK Apaches and not the US ones. Was there a problem with the CRV7 rockets as well? It seems as though the MoD is taking the view that they will put up with the debris from Hellfire as an additional maintenance cost. IIRC it was a slightly dodgy batch of missiles - good enough to pass acceptance testing, not good enough to field. As the US has rather more missiles, they were less affected. Two-Thirds of US Army's Hellfire missiles are defective! As of November 2002 about two-thirds of the Army's Hellfire missiles -- about 10,000 weapons -- had flawed rocket motors that needed to be retrofitted, and most of the missiles had yet to be fixed. The problems affect only Hellfire rocket motors made by a particular contractor, Hercules Aerospace Co. A second contractor's motors are fine. About 4,800 Longbow Hellfires and 5,200 Laser Hellfires are affected -- all the Longbows and half the Lasers. The Navy does not need to fix its Hercules Hellfires, because its helicopters are configured differently from the Army's and the risk is low. http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ns/agm-114.htm |
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