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"Teacherjh" wrote in message ... Which raises another question. What is in a TRSA that isn't anywhere else? I know a TRSA is sort of a stillborn class C, and (from the name) you can get "radar services". So, which ones? VFR aircraft are separated from IFR and other VFR aircraft in a TRSA, but participation is voluntary. VFR aircraft are separated only from IFR aircraft in Class C airspace, but participation is mandatory. All aircraft are sequenced to the primary airport in Class C airspace, not so in a TRSA. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message news:lIRjc.5945 VFR aircraft are separated from IFR and other VFR aircraft in a TRSA, but participation is voluntary. VFR aircraft are separated only from IFR aircraft in Class C airspace, but participation is mandatory. All aircraft are sequenced to the primary airport in Class C airspace, not so in a TRSA. One thing that VFR's should note, that while participation is voluntary in the TRSA, many TRSA towers get a bit testy if you don't go in through the TRSA-approach control. |
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message m... One thing that VFR's should note, that while participation is voluntary in the TRSA, many TRSA towers get a bit testy if you don't go in through the TRSA-approach control. Sure, because now they've gotta find you and sequence you. If all VFR arrivals use TRSA services, which require separation between all aircraft, sequencing is automatic. |
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In article . net,
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: "Ron Natalie" wrote in message m... One thing that VFR's should note, that while participation is voluntary in the TRSA, many TRSA towers get a bit testy if you don't go in through the TRSA-approach control. Sure, because now they've gotta find you and sequence you. If all VFR arrivals use TRSA services, which require separation between all aircraft, sequencing is automatic. Idle question: how common are TRSAs? I can find only one in all of California, but that doesn't say much about other parts of the US. Hamish |
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I found only one on the Chicago Sectional, at Waterloo (ALO).
"Hamish Reid" wrote in message ... In article . net, "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: "Ron Natalie" wrote in message m... One thing that VFR's should note, that while participation is voluntary in the TRSA, many TRSA towers get a bit testy if you don't go in through the TRSA-approach control. Sure, because now they've gotta find you and sequence you. If all VFR arrivals use TRSA services, which require separation between all aircraft, sequencing is automatic. Idle question: how common are TRSAs? I can find only one in all of California, but that doesn't say much about other parts of the US. Hamish |
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"Hamish Reid" wrote in message ... Idle question: how common are TRSAs? I can find only one in all of California, but that doesn't say much about other parts of the US. I know of TRSAs at Rockford, Illinois, and Muskegon and Kalamazoo, Michigan. |
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"Bill Denton" wrote in message ... I found only one on the Chicago Sectional, at Waterloo (ALO). ALO does not have a TRSA. http://makeashorterlink.com/?O15B32828 |
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Please review the subject of this thread, which is the use of an "R" in a
circle on Sectional Charts to denote the presence of Airport Surveillance Radar at specific airports. It appears Mr. Reid introduced TRSA's into the mix, a point I failed to note. And it appears that a TRSA is not the same thing as Airport Surveillance Radar. So, my statement, in response to the original subject, that the only Airport Surveillance Radar on the Chicago Sectional is at Waterloo (ALO) is correct, assuming that I found all that were on the chart. And your statement, in response to the changed subject: "I know of TRSAs at Rockford, Illinois, and Muskegon and Kalamazoo, Michigan", is also correct. "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net... "Hamish Reid" wrote in message ... Idle question: how common are TRSAs? I can find only one in all of California, but that doesn't say much about other parts of the US. I know of TRSAs at Rockford, Illinois, and Muskegon and Kalamazoo, Michigan. |
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In article ,
"Bill Denton" wrote: Please review the subject of this thread, which is the use of an "R" in a circle on Sectional Charts to denote the presence of Airport Surveillance Radar at specific airports. Thread drift, it's called :-). It appears Mr. Reid introduced TRSA's into the mix, a point I failed to note. Erm, what?! It appears Ron Natalie, in om, introduced TRSAs into the mix, a point you failed to note: "Ron Natalie" wrote in message m... One thing that VFR's should note, that while participation is voluntary in the TRSA, many TRSA towers get a bit testy if you don't go in through the TRSA-approach control. That was included in the article of mine that you responded to. And it may have been introduced earlier by someone else -- I didn't follow the references all the way. I just happened to notice the reference to TRSAs, and started wondering... And it appears that a TRSA is not the same thing as Airport Surveillance Radar. Well, no -- TRSAs are a lot rarer than ASRs. Which is why I asked the question about TRSAs (having never actually encountered one myself). Such is Usenet, I guess. Hamish |
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