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Old September 24th 04, 08:03 PM
Bob Thompson
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A feature article in the Durango Herald newspaper (Durango, Colorado) =
this morning about a 5 star resort north of town, Tall Timber, really =
caught my attention. They now offer an "extreme sport" of Peter Pan- =
like zipping down through the trees hanging from a wire that they call =
"SOARING"... and they have their lawyers "busily filing for patents and =
the COPYRIGHT TO THE NAME, SOARING". If they get this copyright of the =
name of our sport of "soaring", the name of the SSA, the name of the =
ASA, the name of Turf Soaring, Arizona Soaring, Soaring magazine, etc. =
may well have to be liscensed from these folks. =20

I'd say this is something perhaps a batch of "soaring" lawyers would =
want to look into pronto. Any copyright or patent lawyers involved in =
soaring got any comments? After all, we DO live in a VERY litigeous =
society / country.

Bob Thompson
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Old September 25th 04, 02:22 AM
COLIN LAMB
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Eric is right. You cannot protect a name already in common use.

As a matter of fact, common law gives protection to those who have prior
use. And, Soaring magazine would have copyright protection, anyway.

Colin


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Old September 25th 04, 09:31 PM
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Could this mean that big birds could no longer soar?
Are we to be grounded and only allowed to glide.
What a terrible thing!
Something must be done.
GA

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Old September 27th 04, 02:31 AM
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Let me see if I have this right..

Some rich person in an exclusive, gated playground community is going to PAY to
be suspended from a wire for the purpose of hurtling downhill some number of
feet above the ground?

Forget SOARING.. they should call their
"sport" EXTREME IDIOCY instead. Two words, easier to copyright.

If patrons are that easily parted from their money maybe we should open a
franchise selling them Pixie dust to sprinkle on the teeming masses below. Or
would Disney sue us for emulating Tinkerbelle too closely?

MG
San Diego :-)
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Old September 27th 04, 12:24 AM
Fred the Red Shirt
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Bob Thompson wrote in message ...
A feature article in the Durango Herald newspaper (Durango, Colorado) =
this morning about a 5 star resort north of town, Tall Timber, really =
caught my attention. They now offer an "extreme sport" of Peter Pan- =
like zipping down through the trees hanging from a wire that they call =
"SOARING"... and they have their lawyers "busily filing for patents and =
the COPYRIGHT TO THE NAME, SOARING". If they get this copyright of the =
name of our sport of "soaring", the name of the SSA, the name of the =
ASA, the name of Turf Soaring, Arizona Soaring, Soaring magazine, etc. =
may well have to be liscensed from these folks. =20

I'd say this is something perhaps a batch of "soaring" lawyers would =
want to look into pronto. Any copyright or patent lawyers involved in =
soaring got any comments? After all, we DO live in a VERY litigeous =
society / country.


A single word such as 'soaring' is too short to be protected by
copyright. The editors of that newspaper certainly SHOULD have
been aware of that.

They may be able to register "SOARING" (all caps) as a trademark
for their 'sport' but that won't give them rights to soaring any
more than hormel's trademark 'SPAM' carries over to email spam.

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Old September 27th 04, 09:44 AM
Clint
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A single word such as 'soaring' is too short to be protected by
copyright. The editors of that newspaper certainly SHOULD have
been aware of that.

They may be able to register "SOARING" (all caps) as a trademark
for their 'sport' but that won't give them rights to soaring any
more than hormel's trademark 'SPAM' carries over to email spam.


Rooibos (redbush) is a form of tea grown in South Africa for many
years. It is an Afrikaans word but is accepted in the English language
as well as there is no other English word for the drink. It is very
popular in South Africa (you battle to get a decent cup of regular tea
at a typical Afrikaans household) and is sold locally by many
producers. Some person has however copyrighted the word in America and
is now the only person allowed to market rooibos in America under that
name. No South African thought such a move was possible as it is like
copyrighting the word coffee and then forcing everybody else who sells
coffee to sell it under another name. It is amazing what can be pushed
through the American legal system. Rooibos and Soaring both have seven
letters so I don't think that there is anything that protects a single
word from becoming copyrighted.

Clinton
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Old September 27th 04, 03:00 PM
Don Johnstone
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I don't think you are in real trouble. The word Hoover
is a trade mark and copyright but is used generically
to describe a sucking cleaning machine, The former
head of the FBI, and a large dam. The word Ford could
be even worse, again a trademark and copyright and
applies to a rubbish vehicle, a former president (Gerald,
only a brit would remember him), an actor (Harrison)
and a way of crossing a river, which brings us to Bush,
a trade mark over here for electrical items but also
shrubbery, two presidents and something I cannot mention
in polite company but is certainly related in many
ways to the aforesaid two presidents.
I think SOARING is safe even in the land of the rampant
litigators.
:-)



At 09:06 27 September 2004, Clint wrote:

A single word such as 'soaring' is too short to be
protected by
copyright. The editors of that newspaper certainly
SHOULD have
been aware of that.

They may be able to register 'SOARING' (all caps)
as a trademark
for their 'sport' but that won't give them rights
to soaring any
more than hormel's trademark 'SPAM' carries over to
email spam.


Rooibos (redbush) is a form of tea grown in South Africa
for many
years. It is an Afrikaans word but is accepted in the
English language
as well as there is no other English word for the drink.
It is very
popular in South Africa (you battle to get a decent
cup of regular tea
at a typical Afrikaans household) and is sold locally
by many
producers. Some person has however copyrighted the
word in America and
is now the only person allowed to market rooibos in
America under that
name. No South African thought such a move was possible
as it is like
copyrighting the word coffee and then forcing everybody
else who sells
coffee to sell it under another name. It is amazing
what can be pushed
through the American legal system. Rooibos and Soaring
both have seven
letters so I don't think that there is anything that
protects a single
word from becoming copyrighted.

Clinton
LAK 12




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Old February 6th 06, 06:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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"Nyal Williams" wrote in message
...
an upstream comment.

It is the 'butter' part that makes it copyrightable;
it is a recipe. The crushed, ground, unaltered stuff
should be called 'Peanut Paste.'


I thought it was the oil/fat that defined it as "butter"? The creamery
doesn't add sugar when they produce "butter". Just a little salt. So why
should sugar have to be added to peanuts to make peanut butter?




 




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