bad vectors, no hand off

On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 04:43:22 GMT, A Lieberma
wrote:

Roger wrote in
:

In Actual: Ahhh... *** approach, this is XXX 20 North at 4,000. How
far do you want me to keep going for traffic avoidance? Ahhhh XXX ...
turn heading 180 and expect vectors to the ILS.

I knew instrument flying required patience, but you exceeded the patience
of Job *big smile*.

At 3 miles a minute it doesn't take very long and when you are busy 5
or 6 minutes can go by in a hurry.

They were really busy and it was hard to get a word in.:-))
At least the ride was smooth even if I couldn't see anything.

That was the same day and same airport where they told me to follow
the airliner ahead when I couldn't see past the Deb's wing tips. I
believe my reply was something to the effect of "I would if I could,
but I can't see my own wingtips". Which was followed by another...
"Uhhh... when you break out, follow the airliner." :-))


Musta woke the controller up from a nap?

I think it certainly woke him up, but not from a nap:-))

Over the years I've had them make just about as many mistakes as I
have. On one particular trip I was cleared to land at the wrong
airport. So pilots aren't the only ones making that mistake. When I
reminded them my flight plan called for the neighboring airport, the
usual short pause was followed by a "can you make the runway from your
current position?". It was visual and I could. Some one else must have
called the tower as they were expecting me and I was well inside
where I'd have normally switched for approach to the tower. The one
approach (at the other field) handles both fields although they have
separate towers. It's a good thing they cleared me for 17 instead of
23 as both airports have a 23 but where I was headed doesn't have a
17. :-)) Actually I was already suspicious as approach was almost
taking me over the end of the runway I was expecting to use.

Allen
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Flew the Commanders in Seattle when I worked for Skycraft up there; flew the
6 in Tulsa when I worked for Bill Christiansen. Both are great aircraft - I
wouldn't be surprised if you can take the Commander apart and haul it in the
six.

I liked the seating in the Commander and the interior roominess better than
the 6 - but like someone else pointed out if you could get it in the 6, you
could fly it.

--
Jim Carter
Rogers, Arkansas
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in message
...
Bonehenge wrote:
There's always next year. -=8^(

And I liked the Six so much more than the Commander.


Me too. I've never flown a Commander but I've got a bunch of time flying
a Six to some very nice places. Never a 260 though... always a 300. I
understand the 260 actually has more useful load... which is already kind
of scary. I used to carry 6 adults, baggage, and diving gear (except for
tanks and weight belts) from North Carolina to various spots in the
Bahamas (with staging in and out of the Vero Beach/ St. Lucie County
area). One hell of a load... one hell of a bird.

What did the guy who won the AOPA bird fly? C-130's? He's never gonna be
satisfied with a Six. Schmuck.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

Jim Carter wrote:
I liked the seating in the Commander and the interior roominess better than
the 6 - but like someone else pointed out if you could get it in the 6, you
could fly it.


So true. I used to use both a C-210 and the Six on my Bahamian runs. The 210
could make it nonstop but it was pretty tight for the folks in the back. It
also was tough finding space for all our crap. The Six didn't have the range or
the speed, but it definitely had the room. The rear seats were comfortable and
the forward baggage compartment made managing an aft CG pretty easy. Six
adults, full fuel, baggage and dive gear... we might waddle into the sky but I
never worried I wouldn't make it.

As many others have said, the limiting factor was whether you could get the
doors closed....




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

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45 days.

....and do they really use tapes? I thought it was all hard drives now.

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John T
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