*********A DEFENCE FOR MXMORAN***********

Not shown are the dozens of switches and buttons on the overhead
panel.

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Jim Pennino

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Apart from lighting controls the overhead panel isn't required much
during flight and only necessary for pre-flight and engine start. It
of course requires monitoring with fuel systems being configured for
tank/engine when required but apart from that no real input from the
pilot. Most of the work is via the MCP on the glareshield and the FMC

Ibby

It's been two hours staring at that screen (NOT) and I am still
looking for the altitude hold button LOL *I'za along with the 100's of
passengers would have been dead 118 minutes ago looking for that durn
thing.

See the '10000' on the MCP (the linear panel along the length of the
window)
Below that is a knob rotate it left to assign a lower altitude and
right to increase, below this knob is a button which clearly says
'HOLD'
There is also a 'HOLD' button below Heading too which means the
aircraft can retain a set heading or altitude whilst you change to the
next desired, pressing Heading Select will result in the aircraft
turning at a time of your choosing rather than the second you touch
the knob and VS (Vertical Speed) switch will start the aircraft
climbing or descending at a choosen rate when this is pressed too.

Ibby

Your statement was obvious nonsense from looking at the picture of
a real airplane.

Afraid MX is correct on this one. The overhead panel on 737's and
747's handle the IRS's (Inertial Referencing System, these are like
GPS), Hydraulics Systems, Battery and Electrical power system, fuel
control systems, engine autostart systems and continuous ignition if
visible moisture is present,anti-ice, pressurisation and air
conditioning systems, fire control system and internal and external
lighting controls. They do NOT control the atitude and etc of the
aircraft and require little input after takeoff. The Flight
Management Computer controls the majority of the flight by taking
control of the autopilot and autothrottle systems. The Mode Control
Panel which has 13 buttons, 4 knobs and 2 switches for the Flight
Director and Autothrottle are really all that is required for input to
manually over-ride the active flightplan in the FMC.

Airline pilots use this method when vectored into an airport by ATC,
or when given specific headings to follow or altitude and speed
restrictions

Ibby

No one can reguilarly crash and die.

True. *It's a different pilot each time.

Sorry but that is funny observation ;-)

Ibby

Ibby wrote:

Your statement was obvious nonsense from looking at the picture of
a real airplane.

Afraid MX is correct on this one.

His original statement was there are only a dozen or so switches and
buttons.

If you look at the entire panel, there are a lot more then that.

The overhead panel on 737's and
747's handle the IRS's (Inertial Referencing System, these are like
GPS), Hydraulics Systems, Battery and Electrical power system, fuel
control systems, engine autostart systems and continuous ignition if
visible moisture is present,anti-ice, pressurisation and air
conditioning systems, fire control system and internal and external
lighting controls. They do NOT control the atitude and etc of the
aircraft and require little input after takeoff. The Flight
Management Computer controls the majority of the flight by taking
control of the autopilot and autothrottle systems. The Mode Control
Panel which has 13 buttons, 4 knobs and 2 switches for the Flight
Director and Autothrottle are really all that is required for input to
manually over-ride the active flightplan in the FMC.

Airline pilots use this method when vectored into an airport by ATC,
or when given specific headings to follow or altitude and speed
restrictions

Ibby

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Jim Pennino

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Ibby wrote:

Not shown are the dozens of switches and buttons on the overhead
panel.

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Jim Pennino

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Apart from lighting controls the overhead panel isn't required much
during flight and only necessary for pre-flight and engine start. It
of course requires monitoring with fuel systems being configured for
tank/engine when required but apart from that no real input from the
pilot. Most of the work is via the MCP on the glareshield and the FMC

Ibby

No one said it was required during flight.

The point of contention is how many switches and buttons are present
and have to be looked at to find a particular one, not what they do.


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Jim Pennino

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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I'm talking to a pilot who largely admits having no clue about 747s, but
that
doesn't stop him from talking about them.

As opposed to a dumb assed, non-pilot that has no clue about a 747.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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writes:

Yeah, so what?

So I'm better informed than most of the people arguing with me.

I noticed you snipped the part where you were wrong, i.e. where you
stated
there were only a dozen of so switches and buttons.

It depends on which part of the panel you are looking at. Should I count
everything back to the cockpit door?

God you're stupid.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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-b- writes:

Fortunately, safe pilots are not so brazen. Instead of testosterone to
assert
knowledge, they rely on documentation and they cross-check.

They can do that with simulation alone.

Prove it moron.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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BeechSundowner writes:


Some people will, but they have to start with an open mind.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa, says the poster child for those with a closed mind.

There goes another irony meter.