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Old December 7th 14, 10:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Daniel Baumli
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Dear gliderpilots,

I don't want to abuse your forum for big advertising. But since our clothes are something new it might interest you.
So just post the link to our website. If you have any questions fell free to write me.

www.milvus.aero/english

Have a nice Advent Sunday!

Daniel
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Old December 7th 14, 02:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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$250 for a pants, I'll stick with REI for an expensive option.

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Old December 7th 14, 03:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Daniel Baumli
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Hi,

I understand if the price seems high, but since there is a lot of development behind and we produce in small quantities we have to put all the sidecoast like development, administration, marketing, logisitcs on this small number of products.

Have a nice day!

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Old December 7th 14, 03:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Pilots are inherently cheap, especially glider pilots. Don't get me wrong, I like the looks and functionality.


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Old December 7th 14, 04:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Well that's about $300 USD. Thank you for reminding me that I am apparently one of the few glider pilots who is not a freakin' billionaire!

Nice touch with the price break at 7 pairs... I mean any self respecting glider pilot just must have a pair for each day of the week...And when I blow over $2 grand on pants...I want to save 5 or 10 bucks...7 pairs makes it easy on the servants too...so they can attend to important things, not doing the wash every day...

For us mere "thousandaires"...a pair of cargo shorts from WalMart for $8 and Hanes Beefy Tee.(with pocket) for $4.35 and we're good to go flying!

Chart goes into the map pocket in the glider and I write important stuff directly on my hand! For UV protection of the ankles....socks!

If you're into the "pockets everywhere" thing...a surplus air force coveralls flight suit can be had at the army navy store for $25....

Just sayin'....

Good luck with the business venture

Cookie











I don't want to abuse your forum for big advertising. But since our clothes are something new it might interest you.
So just post the link to our website. If you have any questions fell free to write me.

www.milvus.aero/english

Have a nice Advent Sunday!

Daniel


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Old December 7th 14, 04:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Daniel Baumli
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Hi Cookie,

It's not our attention to offend you or anyone else in this Forum.
Everyone can fly with the clothes he likes.

We struggle with the same issues like avionics producer. They ask several tousand dollars for an airplaneinstrument but a mobilphone has more functions and better performance. They also have a small quantity of products and a lot of development.

I'm sorry if my post offended you.

Kind regards

Daniel
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Old December 7th 14, 08:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Daniel,

I'm not offended in the least...just having some fun at your expense.

I am trying to figure out your business model..???

(you have a highly specialized product, in a tiny market, and an extravagant price....I don't see it working for you)

But hey, if you can sell lots of $300 pants...more power to you...

(maybe I'm in the wrong business)

Cookie


On Sunday, December 7, 2014 11:48:55 AM UTC-5, Daniel Baumli wrote:
Hi Cookie,

It's not our attention to offend you or anyone else in this Forum.
Everyone can fly with the clothes he likes.

We struggle with the same issues like avionics producer. They ask several tousand dollars for an airplaneinstrument but a mobilphone has more functions and better performance. They also have a small quantity of products and a lot of development.

I'm sorry if my post offended you.

Kind regards

Daniel


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Old December 7th 14, 09:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Daniel Baumli
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Default Clothes for gliderpilots

Hi Cookie,

Well it's not the goal to get rich. We're working besides MILVUS 100%.

After a few years flying sailplane I was frustrated that I don't get as good gear and clothes like for mountainbiking, running, mountaineering etc.

The idea behind MILVUS is to offer high quality products for ambitious glider pilots.Not everyone has the same demand on clothes.
But I would already miss my BRAVO trousers after flying a whole season with them
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Old December 8th 14, 06:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Sean Fidler
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I love the idea of specialized soaring clothing but $300 bucks 😄 (plus Europe to USA shipping) for soaring pants is, at least initially, a bit shocking. Most of my "gliding" pants end up with grease on them (yes I wear an apron!). Within a season they are essentially grease spot covered, grungy painter pants. Therefore I am reluctant to wear anything valuable near the glider. The thigh windows in your $300 soaring pants are really nice but I like to be able to write notes and flip thru several pages quickly (checklist or task list for example). Your pants are only for easy viewing of pre inserted material for reading only. Making any changes to that material would require me to open the zipper and get the paper out, flip thru to what I need, the refold and re-insert back into the clear pocket while in flight. I'm not sure that I could ever be neat and organized enough to get everything I need into those two pockets while flying...

Here is what I have been using (similar) and it works well for me. I found a pair of Patagonia "cargo pants" that fit great and were on clearance ($80, shock cord ankles, ventilation zippers, tons of pockets, etc). I sewed in large Velcro pads onto each thigh as well as a set of "belt loops" around each thigh to keep the thigh clips (http://www.sportys.com/pilotShop/product/8782) in place. With this arrangement I can prearrange several things and flip the pages easily. I also have an ipad thigh strap (also sporty's pilot shop) which actually worked great (best actually). My iPad is currently illegal in US contests becuase it is LTE enabled 😞.

Anyway, these pants allow me to have all of my important info handy and I can also write notes easily on a notepad (very important to me). I probably have $100 into these pants including two Sporty's thigh pad straps. You can get great outdoor cargo pants (REI) for under $50 these days. The sewing took less than an hour. I'll post a picture sometime.

Good luck with your company! I think you have a good product but at an extreme price. Even top end sailing pants (bibs) is not even that expensive in the US (Musto, Henry Loyd, Zhick, etc).
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Old December 7th 14, 04:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bob Kuykendall
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I usually get my soaring attire from thrift stores and mountaineering shops:

* Loose white cotton shirt, epoxy stained
* 1990's Regional contest T-shirt (preferably John Shelton designs)
* Rock climbing pants (REI or Royal Robbins)
* Hiking boots
* Short-billed baseball cap, no button
 




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