Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)

"Snowbird" wrote in message
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"Mxsmanic" wrote

and they all speak perfect english

Germans who speak perfect English are extremely rare.

Not in WWII movies. Many Tsherman aviators speak it very well, some with
chummy British public school accents.


Not among aviators. Not as regards aviation language.

Anyway, Englishmen who speak perfect German are even rarer.

Depends on what you mean by perfect German. I was in Schulenburg the other
day eating barbecue, and the two old guys I was dining with, local farmers,
was a'sprachen it right smart. Up in West Station, at Pareya's pool hall
and domino parlor, I've relatives who speak Czech and English in the same
sentence, quicker and better after 6 or 7 pivos. Out at SPJST Cottonwood,
why they even sing in Czech.

As an old Carrier Air Intercept Controller, on NATO exercises, I had to be
prepared to control any Western language or fragments thereof and possess
enough Russian obscenities to shout at snoopers.

TMO

Snowbird wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote

and they all speak perfect english

Germans who speak perfect English are extremely rare.


Not among aviators. Not as regards aviation language.

Anyway, Englishmen who speak perfect German are even rarer.


Perhaps if Germany had won the war, it would be more important to them.

JohnT writes:

How many German people do you know?

A lot. I live in a cosmopolitan city and I teach languages, so I meet German
people all the time and have a good idea of their English competence. Perfect
English is extraordinarily rare among Germans, just as it is among other
non-English-speaking groups.

Snowbird writes:

Not among aviators. Not as regards aviation language.

There's no such thing as "aviation language."

Anyway, Englishmen who speak perfect German are even rarer.

German isn't the international language of air traffic control.

Wolfgang Schwanke writes:

Americans who speak perfect English are rare too.

They speak it far better than Germans, for obvious reasons.

Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote in
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writes:


and they all speak perfect english

Germans who speak perfect English are extremely rare.


Americans who speak perfect English are rare too.

English who can speak perfect English (let alone spell it) are getting
pretty rare too.

T.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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A lot. I live in a cosmopolitan city and I teach languages

Languages, plural? Somehow I thing you're lying again.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Snowbird writes:

Not among aviators. Not as regards aviation language.

There's no such thing as "aviation language."

You don't fly, so you wouldn't know.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Wolfgang Schwanke writes:

Americans who speak perfect English are rare too.

They speak it far better than Germans, for obvious reasons.

Not obvious to me. Every german I know speaks perfect english, although with
an accent.

On Jun 30, 12:14 am, Dallas wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:08:16 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
As hard as it may be for residents of the city to accept, there is more to the
world outside of Dallas.

Tell ya what...

Why don't you make a list of all the foreign countries you've been to and
I'll respond with a list of my own and we'll see who's got the widest world
view.

--
Dallas

Dallas,

Absolutely no offense intended, but Mx is mostly right on this one.

The number of Dallas Area stations speaking Spanish, or, hell, the
percentage of US Residents Speaking Spanish is utterly irrelevant when
it comes to measuring or comparing its relative value as an
international language.

To think that the language distribution in anyones particular region
of residence has any bearing what-so-ever on how that language shows
nothing but an over-valued sense of local importance.

Of course, in the same breath that Mx is criticizing you guys, he is
committing the same fallacy- asserting that French is an international
language on a par with English... The only people in the world who
hold French in that regard are the French, in their classic
nationalistic delusion of relevance (not to mention the centuries old
****ing contest with England they refuse to admit they lost when they
surrendered during WWII).

That said, English's standing a the world standard language of
business is far from assured, however. While the 20th century was
Exceedingly good to the British and Americans, it remains to be seen
whether or not they can retain their dominance, especially if China
turns into the economic power-house it aspires too (especially if they
succeed in undermining American Economic power in the process, as they
are actively working to do).